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   Message 39,976 of 41,683   
   GregS to Bill Graham   
   Re: Value of KLH speakers?   
   08 Sep 10 19:47:54   
   
   From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com   
      
   In article <9N2dnagxG8OpNhrRnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Bill Graham"   
    wrote:   
   >   
   >"AZ Nomad"  wrote in message   
   >news:slrni8dr2q.i7p.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...   
   >> On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:38:32 +1000, Mr.T  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>I doubt you will find any stereo separation below 50Hz on any music CD   
   >>>either, and definitely not on any vinyl source. So there is no difference   
   >>>between twin mono (real) SUB woofers, and true stereo for all practical   
   >>>purposes anyway.   
   >>   
   >> Unless your room is at least 50' wide, it won't be heard in stereo.   
   >> Wavelength for a 50hz wave is 22'.  Let it bounce off the near walls and   
   >> it will definately not be stereo by the time it reaches the listener.   
   >>   
   >> If you can hear where sound is coming from your subs, it is because of   
   >> harmonics above about 80-100hz.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >Not sure how relevant this is to your discussion, but I play a trumpet, and   
   >I amplify my sound sometimes, so I can use special effects, and I have to   
   >cut off anything below about 100 Hz, in order to eliminate the valve clunk I   
   >get when my valves return to their highest, "relaxed" position.....There is   
   >a lot of low frequency noise in any recorded band. Not just valve "clunk",   
   >but guitar fretboard noise and other stuff like that.....I can get rid of   
   >most of it with a low cut filter, but not all of it.....   
   >   
      
   I used to try and play trumpet. You could cut it off way higher I'm sure.   
      
   I have in the past used signal generators and try to find how high before   
   localization occurs. 70 Hz and below is pretty safe. Even my cheap signal   
   generator has .5% distortion, but my old HP does way better. Any   
   little noise can be localized, especially woofer wind or basket noise.   
      
      
   greg   
      
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