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|    Dick Pierce to ChrisCoaster    |
|    Re: Want to design a 3-way speaker with     |
|    30 Oct 10 12:38:08    |
      ff99cff2       From: dpierce@cartchunk.org              ChrisCoaster wrote:       > I'm talking about both woofers having at least a 1" high-profile butyl-       > rubber surround that would allow visible movement even when driven       > mildly.              Why? As you might have gathered from some of my other       posts, this is, at least, a completely irrelevant       technical requirement.              All other things being equal, for a given excursion, the sound       pressure level goes as the square of frequency. Since Fourier       tells us that transient must, by their very nature, contain       a wide range or frequencies and thus much of the energy is       at higher frequencies, the "visible movement" requirement       simply ignores physical reality.              But starting with an excursion requirement is a bass-ackwards       way of designing a speaker.. Instead, you start with bandwidth       and sound level requirements and see what derives from that       in terms of physical parameters.              >The midrange might also be visibly moved,              No, I think, given your spec's all the drivers would       be visibly upset.               > My theory is that small rigid cones with high excursion        > move as much air as effectively as a huge cone with less        > excursion and perhaps not as structurally stiff.              Well, without some actual exporation of the facts, it might       SOUND right, but it's not.              For a given SPL at a given frequency, the excursion required       for a cone goes as the inverse square of the diameter. Thus,       working from the relation between diameter, excursion and       frequency posted elswhere in this thread, a 12" woofer       producing 100 dB SPL at 50 Hz would require an excursion of       of about 0.15 cm, in the realm of about 1/16 inches, not       much. But a 6" driver doing the same would require FOUR       times as much excursion (because its emissive areas is       on fourth as great), and 1/4 excursion is beginning to       push the limits of linearity in a driver that small. Go to       a 4" driver, and you need an excursion of NINE times as much       for the same SPL. Building a 4" driver with a half inch       of peak linear excursion is simply beyond any reaonable       magnet, voice coil or suspension technology. And, because       EVERYTHING is smaller with smaller drivers, your heat       dissipation gets worse.              Further, it's VERY difficult to NOT have the Bl product,       one of the prime determinant of efficiency, scale with size.       Thus, the smaller drivers, despite smaller mass, will not       necessarily have the same electroacoustic efficiency and,       in most case, end up having less, ameking the power       requirements even more severe.                     --       +--------------------------------+       + Dick Pierce |       + Professional Audio Development |       +--------------------------------+              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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