XPost: rec.music.gdead, sci.electronics.design
From: ksi@koi8.net
In sci.electronics.design Trevor wrote:
>
> "Sergey Kubushyn" wrote in message
> news:ikhjdl$e6a$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Which of course has absolutely *nothing* to do with the pro's and cons of
>>> vinyl Vs CD, only the mastering choices.
>>
>> The problem is people don't listen to CD or Vinyl. It is _music_ they
>> listen
>> to. All the wonderful technical parameters don't make music any better.
>
> Right, or necessarily any worse.
Yep.
>> Sure, CD looks better on paper. But it is already rule of thumb that
>> almost
>> everything that goes on CD is of inferior quality
>
> An opinion you get to have, but there is very little to actually compare,
> let alone arrive at such a sweeping conclusion. Of course "almost everything
> that goes on CD" never even makes it to vinyl these days!
Much of that worth listening does. As of remaining 99.9% of that monotonic
indiscernible from each other noise I don't care. And those who do listen to
that don't care either because it is all on low quality MP3 etc. That is,
BTW, an enormous overkill qualitywise for that kind of, sorry for an
expression, music.
>>while those who make LPs
>> take great care to do the best job possible to overcome media
>> shortcomings.
>> That makes the resulting _music_ from LP beating CD by a huge margin
>> despite
>> CD being better media on paper.
>
> Once again you forget to add "In your opinion", and neglect to mention that
> only a MINISCULE amount of music being made these days is available on vinyl
> in any case! I would certainly hope that the tiny percentage that does make
> it to vinyl is more carefully produced/manufactured than what it was in days
> gone by, especially considering the huge price premium now being asked.
These days most of it is like SPAM. There is no difference what brand it is
or what color the label is, it is SPAM. And there is no need for a french
chief for this, everybody would do. It is no longer needed that one can sing
or play a musical instrument to become a "musician" or a "singer" -- 99% of
all, sorry for an expression, music is just dancing to a phonogram an
showing boobs. They can be deaf and dumb but still be "singers." No voice
required.
>> Just try to listen to e.g. Bob Marley "Uprising" on a CD. It is a worst
>> nightmare I ever heard. That is why I have all his records on LPs. CDs
>> don't
>> even come close to those. But they are better on paper, yes.
>
> Right, and any differences are simply production/marketing choices or
> compromises. Vinyl certainly requires far more of the latter!
> One can easily copy a vinyl record to CD without any loss of quality. The
> reverse is simply impossible.
Formally it is right. But if one only have compared the actual music on
those 2 medias not looking into details which one is better on paper he
could've clearly concluded that vinyl is way better media because it always
gives better sound. And he would've been absolutely right because it is
music that matters, not nice figures on paper.
> And CD's/SACD's/DVDA's aimed at the audiophile ( and audiophool) market are
> still far more numerous than new vinyl releases, despite being a tiny
> percentage of the market.
I wouldn't agree with you here but I might be wrong. They are all a tiny
niche, yes.
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