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   XPost: sci.electronics.repair   
   From: mapson.scarts@btinternet.INVALID   
      
   "David Looser"  wrote in message   
   news:9mg4nvF2fdU1@mid.individual.net...   
   : "Jerry"  wrote   
   :   
   : > : Just ask any toddler who has tried to poke a screwdriver   
   into   
   : > an outlet.   
   : >   
   : > A toddler in the UK "Yeah! This game of sticking things in to   
   : > these plastic shapes in the wall is fun, lets do it again!"   
   : >   
   : > A toddler in the USA (120v) "That tingles, not sure that I   
   like   
   : > that..."   
   : >   
   : > A toddler in the EU (240v) *flash, bang, wallop* "That hurt   
   : > daddy, why is my finger throbbing, why has the TV (or what   
   ever   
   : > else is on the circuit) stopped working?"   
   : >   
   : UK mains sockets have shutters, have you not noticed?   
      
   Duh, never! In any case, what happens when this shutter fails, as   
   can happen, and thus that nice 'safe' electrical outlet becomes   
   (unknowingly) totally unprotected from such intrusion... Did you   
   actually bother to read what I said?   
      
   : > :   
   : > : What's your problem with it? And how many of your American   
   : > plugs are   
   : > : hanging out of the socket with exposed pins and   
   intermittent   
   : > connections?   
   : > :   
   : >   
   : > Indeed, the North America attitude to electrical hardware is   
   a   
   : > farce   
   :   
   : Agreed.   
   :   
   : > (only of the reasons why they are still plagued by high   
   : > numbers of electrical fires), but then so is the UK's BS*   
   1363   
   : > standard for plug/sockets, only in the UK -and those   
   countries   
   : > that have copied the UK- is the final circuit protection so   
   : > designed that it is easy (for the end user) to defeat it   
   either   
   : > through ignorance or wilful tampering, thus a device   
   requiring   
   : > protection at 3 or 5 amps co so easily end up being actually   
   : > protected at 13 amps - or 30 amps in the case of wilful   
   : > tampering...   
   :   
   : Have you any data to suggest that deaths or injuries are any   
   worse here than   
   : in countries that don't use BS1363 outlets? I was amazed to   
   find in a modern   
   : house in Italy that I stayed in this summer that all the   
   sockets   
   : (unshuttered and each rated at 10A with fuseless plugs) on each   
   floor were   
   : supplied from a single 25A MCB.  How is that safer than the   
   situation here?   
   :   
      
   But then people know that, in the UK appliances could actually be   
   protected at 30A (with old slow-blow fuse wire) but the person   
   using the appliance believes that it is protected at the correct   
   3A. Again I suspect that you didn't actually read (and   
   understand) what I said...   
      
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