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|    Vintage speaker repair advice wanted...    |
|    22 Jul 13 00:26:27    |
      From: shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com              I realise that this post and question is a little outside of the remit of       this group but I'm at a loss as to where else to find this information.              I recently bought a pair of Wharfedale Dovedale III speakers from ~1970 or       so. I'd read reports on-line (including the original 'Gramophone' review       that is no longer available) which praised these for their faithful       reproduction of most of the frequency spectrum but in particular their       'deep, clean bass'. I have a pair of Goodmans Magnum SL speakers that are       similar design (3-way acoustic suspension) and vintage and, after replacing       the x-over capacitors they sound pretty good. I was hoping for a similar       result with the Dovedales which were their (British) competition at the       time.              They had been in storage for a decade before I took possession of them (from       a deceased estate) so, before parting with my money I asked for them to be       connected to an amp and played so I could test that all drivers were working       (as I'd heard of people who'd had their tweeters fail). The only source       available was a lo-fi CD / radio player so I only turned up the volume       enough to hear (through my trusty cardboard tube) that all six drivers       worked. I parted with my money and bought them home.              Alas, on getting them home I discovered that the 'rubber' surrounds of the       12.5" woofers had gone hard - they felt almost like bakelite! Of course they       produced no bass and I didn't dare 'drive' them for fear of damaging the       cones. After some frantic Googling I found that at least one other person       had also had this happen (but no follow-up on how, or if it was fixed). I       then spent quite a bit of time contacting various suppliers of replacement       driver surrounds but am unable to find anything for these. Being 12.5" I       can't just try a generic surround either as nothing fits. I got a couple of       quotes to have them repaired but they're way out of my rather limited       budget. :(              It seems that these really well-built drivers were previously used in other       Wharfedale cabinets, also acoustic suspension, but fitted with doped cloth       surrounds - and that quite a few of these speakers are still going strong.       It's only the rubber-surround ones that have failed....              So I'm trying to find out how to make my own doped cloth surrounds to       replace the (now cracked and broken) 0.5mm thick hardened 'rubber'. I'm an       invalid on welfare so I have time, just not much money. The only       instructions I've found on the web that come close are for making       'siliconed' cloth surrounds. However apparently no glue will stick them to       paper cones other than silicone - which is a once-only job as the only way       to remove it from paper cones (if the desired result isn't achieved first       try) destroys the cones.              As I'd like to preserve these lovely old speakers I'd like to have a shot at       making something similar to the stuff that used to be used for 'doped cloth'       speaker surrounds - the problem is I don't know what cloth or indeed 'dope'       to use! I can just try to use something I consider might be suitable (maybe       cotton and 'rubber cement' or similar - but how to shape and dry it?) but it       sure would be great if anyone can give me guidance or information as to what       used to be used. I'd love to have pointers on how to do it as well but I'll       settle for *any* information I can get rather than trying to re-invent the       wheel.              Help please? Thanks in advance for any useful input. I've had them nearly       six months now while I tried to find answers and I'd really like to try to       bring them back to life. (The highs and mids sound great for speakers of       this vintage!)       --       /Shaun.              "Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a       cozy little classification in the DSM."       David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)       [Sent from my OrbitalT ocular implant interface.]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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