Thanks for the suggs james!   
      
   I also forgot to mention:  All the analog gear still WORKS!  So I'm in no rush   
   to go out and buy all new stuff thank you very much.   
      
   I don't do every ios upgrade Apple issues, i don't get  a new phone everytime   
   I'm eligible.  I still have a (rather) large tube TV in my living room.  I   
   don't use it to browse the web or order take-out on - I have my i-Devices and   
   land line and cell    
   phones for those tasks.   
      
    You could say I'm pretty satisfied.  My stuff does what I need it to.  Ain't   
   in no rush.  ;)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)