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   paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink to Dave Platt   
   Re: Problem Advents   
   06 Feb 15 18:34:01   
   
   Dave Platt  wrote:   
      
   > In article <1lzbs69.1hzpycp8fcf9cN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink>,   
   >   wrote:   
   >   
   > >Maybe somebody here might have a usefull suggetion.   
   > >   
   > >I have a pair of Advent Legacy speakers which I bought in the late 80's,   
   > >new, driven by an SR-3A Nakamichi receiver.  About 16 years ago the foam   
   > >in the woofers basically disintegrated and I had them rebuilt by a lab   
   > >in PA, can't remember the name.  They sounded really great afterwards.   
   > > Anyway, they sound pretty bad now - sort of mushy and fuzzy..  Can't   
   > >make out the lyrics easily to well produced songs.  The foam around the   
   > >woofers still looks perfect.  I have Audio-technica headphones and the   
   > >receiver is very clear through them.  I played some music through the   
   > >Advents at volume and headphones at the same time to see if the clarity   
   > >was breaking down with a load larger than the headphones, and the   
   > >Advents sounded fuzzy and the A-T's sounded clear.  Any ideas regarding   
   > >cleaning the sound of these babies up?  Gotten attached to them over the   
   > >last 35 years:-)   
   >   
   > First thing I'd check, is to see if they still sound bad when played   
   > on another receiver... they probably will but it's good "due   
   > diligence" to make sure that the problem is entirely isolated to the   
   > speakers.   
   >   
   > "Mushy and fuzzy" isn't a terribly precise definition of the problem,   
   > so I'll just suggest a number of things which *might* go wrong with   
   > the speakers which *might* account for this description.   
   >   
   > -  Another failure of the foam surround.  If the foam disintegrates,   
   >    or the glue junction between the foam and diaphragm (or foam and   
   >    frame) breaks, air will leak out as the driver moves back and   
   >    forth.  This will wreck the "acoustic suspension" spring action of   
   >    the air inside the enclosure, and may also make chuffing or   
   >    whoofing sounds.  If "mushy and fuzzy" includes "sounds as if the   
   >    speakers are farting when the bassist hits a low note" this is   
   >    something to check :-)   
   >   
   >    15 years isn't a bad lifetime for foam surrounds, alas... it's   
   >    possible that the replacements are failing again.   
   >   
   > -  Air leak elsewhere in the cabinet (again, this wrecks the acoustic   
   >    suspension system).   
   >   
   > -  The woofer voice-coil suspensions may have sagged with age,   
   >    allowing the voice coil to rub against the magnet assembly or   
   >    frame.  This results in nasty-sounding distortion.   
   >   
   >    You can sometimes detect this by *gently* pressing in on the woofer   
   >    diaphragm, right around the dust cap in the center, with the   
   >    receiver turned off.  Press straight in and release, slowly, and   
   >    don't overdoit.  If you sense a gritty-feeling "something is   
   >    rubbing" sensation, or hear a scraping, then this is your problem.   
   >   
   >    It's sometimes possible to have such drivers repaired (similar to a   
   >    re-coning but it may require replacing the "spider" as well).   
   >   
   > -  The tweeters may not be working right.  If the speaker system was   
   >    overdriven to excessively high volumes, the tweeter voice coils   
   >    might have overheated and burned (leading to warping and rubbing)   
   >    or actually burned out.   
   >   
   >    Some tweeters can have their voice coils replaced;  in other cases   
   >    it's necessary to replace the tweeter with a compatible one (if you   
   >    can find one - crossover changes may be required).   
   >   
   > -  Component failure in the crossover(s) - a dried-out electrolytic   
   >    capacitor would be the likeliest, I think.   
   >   
   > -  Blown fuse in the crossover (if the speaker has 'em for   
   >    protection), shutting down the tweeter.  Fuses do wear out with age   
   >    and need to be replaced.   
   >   
   > -  Advents, being classic rock-era speakers, may not like modern music   
   >    and might be refusing to play it out of distaste :-)   
      
   Thanks for the time and effort you put into your answer.  Greatly   
   appreciated.   
      
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