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   Bob Eld to All   
   Re: The Noises of Music   
   24 Apr 10 19:06:55   
   
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   From: nsmontassoc@yahoo.com   
      
   "Watt? Me worry?"  wrote in message   
   news:22639fc5-9dad-411e-b0c7-db740c1de77e@12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...   
   > Hi RATs!   
   >   
   > I used to have season tickets to live music events. I love live   
   > music.   
   >   
   > Someone suggested I do not hold the great achievements of audio   
   > implementation in adequate regard.   
   >   
   > I do not listen to recorded Music because I prefer it. Only because I   
   > am too sick to go out, anymore.   
   >   
   > Some people are impressed with themselves and their vast knowledge.   
   >   
   > That stuff that comes out of audio systems does not sound much like   
   > live Music. A few of the noises are fairly convincing, but, there is   
   > something huge missing.   
   >   
   > Why else would anyone go to a concert? To show off their sock puppet's   
   > new clothes? If you do not go, you do not know. And some go and are   
   > still convinced Audio is the Ultimate. Well, they say they went...   
   >   
   > This is a free country. Some people would rather buy a CD than attend   
   > a live performance.   
   >   
   > Life is much like the Internet. Lots of possibilities, but, not much   
   > work gets done.   
   >   
   > And a lot of sad little bursts of nasty nonsense.   
   >   
   > ______   
   >   
   > Yes, we can make our audio systems less irritating, if not ourselves,   
   > nor each other ;)   
   >   
   > Happy Ears!   
   >   
   > Al Marcy   
      
   I agree. Speaker music never sounds quite right or real. The simpler the   
   source, fewer instruments, etc. the more real it can sound but there is   
   always something lacking. Blind A,B tests have shown this over and over   
   through the years.   
      
   My view is that the transfer functions of speakers and microphones are just   
   wrong. At best they are two pole band pass or low pass networks while most   
   are multi-pole monstrosities of compliance and mass that in no way can   
   accurately reproduce music. While the musical instruments themselves have   
   multi-resonances, reflections, refractions and a complex pole-zero transfer   
   function. Their sound is what we expect to hear. Adding the transducer   
   responses on top of it is why live music sounds real and speaker music does   
   not. It's a matter of what we expect.   
      
   Of course live modern or pop music that comes out of speakers sounds the way   
   it does and can have a power and dynamics not possible in acoustic music. It   
   is in a class by itself and is not the same as acoustic music. Furthermore   
   as people become less and less familiar with acoustic music, the   
   distinctions may disappear. Even in some Broadway Shows they are getting rid   
   of musicians and going to synthesized music from computers.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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