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|    Pioneer SM-B200A    |
|    27 Dec 10 13:30:43    |
      From: apogosso@tpg.com.au              Hello,              You know those Japanese tuner-amplifiers of the 60's which have dual AM       receivers, one possibly with FM and a stereo amplifier, typically powered by       6BM8 tubes...              I got one of those, Pioneer SM-B200A. It is not working -- the tubes get hot       and "burning". Most likely dead electrolytic and/or leaky interstage paper       caps which bring positive bias to grids. I need to fix the beast before       getting rid of it.              I have no schematic, but tracing the wiring, realised that 6BM8s have fixed       bias originating from some selenium rectifier. Cathodes of 6BM8s are       grounded. More over, there are flinsy open (to dust) carbon trimpots to       "balance" (!) bias of the output tubes. At the same time there is no way of       knowing values of the currents in the tubes. There are no even small current       sensing (measuring) resistors in the cathodes. That design does not make       much sense.              I would get rid of the fixed bias in favour of automatic bias. Automatic       bias will be more robust and forgiving to tubes mismatch. It will not care       if this selenium rectifier dies altogether. I would throw resistors from       each cathode to ground, plus another between the cathodes to be able to       check unbalance.              Now my question is, from your experience, what should these resistor values       be, to get a benign class AB? I would guess 300R from each cathode to ground       and 100R between the cathodes?              Regards,       Alex              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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