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|    Phil Allison to All    |
|    Re: Power Transformer VA    |
|    09 Jan 11 14:40:56    |
      From: phil_a@tpg.com.au              "Big Bad Bob is off with the Fairies"                     >> Transformer VA is rated with resistive load. I.E. voltage and current       >> sine waves. Rectified and capacitor filtered DC, however, doesn't draw       >> a current sine, the entire DC current draw is compressed into a short       >> duration high current capacitor charge pulse.       >       > Now I think I see where this is going. Transformers apparently don't       > handle 'duty cycle power averaging' very well if there are 'hot spots' in       > the windings due to high current pulses.              ** Nonsense.              Pulses of current cause the heat build in wires to be greater than if the       same *average* amount of current were delivered smoothly. Do the math.              Eg:              Imagine a wire with 1 ohm of resistance and you pass 1 amp of DC through       it - the heat loss is 1 watt, OK ?              Now instead, you decide to pass 10 amps switched so that it is on for 1       second and off for 9 - ie the same, 1 amp average current. The heat loss       in the wire is now 10 times more since that loss is proportional to current       squared while the duty cycle is only 10%.              100 x 0.1 = 10.                            > You can get away with average power based on duty cycle for MOST devices       > but there are instantaneous maximum ratings that you don't want to exceed       > for just about anything.              ** More nonsense.                     > FYI I've noticed that rectified and filtered output from transformers       > tends to approach the RMS voltage when you get close to the maximum rated       > current, even if you use gigantic filter capacitors.                     ** That is mostly due to resistive * voltage drop * in the copper windings       which have to pass the current pulses.                     > I think it has less to do with resistance than it does with flux density       > and inductive action within the transformer itself.              ** Nope.              It is almost entirely due to simple resistance.              Few transformers have enough primary to secondary " leakage" inductance to       matter at 50 or 60 Hz.              And never imagine the "saturation" is the culprit - cos the MORE you load       the secondary of a transformer, the LESS it is likely to become       magnetically saturated.                            .... Phil              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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