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From: rwinner@remove_this.hmamail.com
* It may have been the liquor talking, but
Patrick Turner wrote:
> On May 8, 10:39 pm, Tabby wrote:
>> On May 8, 12:32 pm, John L Stewart >
>> 80c4...@audiobanter.com> wrote:
>> > anterm;930852 Wrote:
>>
>> > > Some audiophiles say that the sound quality in vacuum tubes is better,
>> > > but I fail to see why, especially since vacuum tube electronics is an
>> > > older technology
>>
>> > Same odd reason some people prefer to ride a horse now & then! Not
>> > difficult to come up with many other examples.
>>
>> > John
>>
>> Age doesn't determine quality, it more determines price. There are
>> still some very good amplifiers from the 1950s about, like Quad II and
>> similar.
>
> IMHO, Quad-II has a quite parsimonious amount amount of "very good" in
> it. It is one of the poorest mass made amplifiers ever foisted upon
> the public. But so were many others from 1950, Most mass makers were
> reluctant to make gear which compares well to what we can do with
> tubes now. The car industry also produced attrocious cars in 1950.
> nearly everything you bought was butcherd quality, or quality watered
> down. In 1955, everyone complained about cars rusting from the inside
> out while also wearing out rather too soon.
>
> Peter Walker didn't get famous because of his amps. He became famous
> for his electrostatic speakers.
>
> The Chinese make Quad amps now and has tried to make them better, but
> the Quad 40 has many shortcomings; they just don't get it.
>
> Things have not changed, the vast majority of stuff for sale is what I
> never want to own. And the fact that slave labour in China makes it
> for almost nothing so that when its sold in Oz after rapacious shop
> owners here sell it at 20 times the Chinese factory gate price, I
> still don't want it. The Chinese can make good underpants
> and plastic reader glasses, but not tube amps. I also get many solid
> state amps coming in for repairs, and made badly.
>
>
>>> There are differences between valve and transistor amps' sound
>> quality, both have their pros and cons, and some people much prefer
>> valve.
>
> Indeed. Both forms of amps should measure well at normal listening
> levels. I've heard some tube amps which don't, and they don't sound so
> good, and often its because the makers have NO IDEA about how to
> design anything. I have had to totally re-wire a lot of brandname amps
> because of the ignorance of the makers. Much tube gear is complete
> rubbish and the prooduct of minds that were merely greedy, and they
> peddle crap in an entrepreneuring effort which is a complete con job.
> Many people have more money than good sense let alone any ability to
> tell what really sounds well and slick promotion efforts get sales of
> rubbsh. Some people woud gladly eat a shit sandwich if they are told
> how fuckin marvellous the sandwich is and shown how wonderful the
> sandwich looks.
>
> But I raise my hat to the shit producers of the world.
>
> I can then compete with the crap products by offering real
> performance.
>
> > NT
>
> Patrick Turner.
>
I own a Chinese made amp (designed in America), and it sounds delightful.
I'm not willing to pay double for an equivalent amp made in the USA.
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