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   Alex Pogossov to Alejandro Lieber   
   Re: Single ECH35 Synchronous AM Detector   
   21 Sep 11 18:31:06   
   
   From: apogosso@tpg.com.au   
      
   Curious circuit. Thanks.   
      
   But as many others it is a pull-in locked oscillator, which means if the   
   modulation is deep, it will be losing lock at the troughs of the envelope,   
   distorting the signal.   
      
   Nevertheless, the author made an attempt to lock the synchronous oscillator   
   in phase with the carrier, not at 60 degrees as usually happens. Those who   
   experimented with low end "communication receivers" with so called product   
   SSB detector (such as Trio 9R-59DS or Lafayette HE-80, HA-225, etc) probably   
   noticed that on strong AM stations the product detector does lock, but it   
   locks naturally at 90 degrees. The sound becomes tinny, the detector picking   
   up secondary phase modulation (caused by sideband asymmetry) rather than   
   true AM.   
      
   Quadrature lock happens because of capacitive coupling between the signal   
   and BFO, in this case through space charge.   
      
   In the presented circuit Mr. Tucker introduced another 90 deg phase shift.   
   He did not decouple g2,4 of the hexode to GND. As a result, signal on g2,4   
   is 90 degrees lagging due to the inevitable capacitance from g2,4 to GND. In   
   turn, g2,4 are capacitively coupled to the oscillator via capacitance   
   between g2,4 and g3 sandwiched between the former grids. So we have two 90   
   degrees shift which eventually provides lock in phase with the carrier.   
      
   Regards,   
   Alex(andre)   
      
   "Alejandro Lieber"  wrote in   
   message news:201109202329.UTC.j5b7kr$6gg$1@tioat.net...   
   > The original 1947 (no diode) Synchrodyne AM detector by D. G. Tucker,   
   > using a single ECH35:   
   >   
   >   
   > http://lieber.com.ar/Synchrodyne_Detector.jpg   
   >   
   >   
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   > Alejandro Lieber  LU1FCR   
   > Rosario Argentina   
   >   
   > Real-Time F2-Layer Critical Frequency Map foF2:   
   > http://1fcr.com.ar   
      
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