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|    D. Peter Maus to rrusston@hotmail.com    |
|    Re: Building a new shortwave tube radio    |
|    27 Nov 11 23:17:41    |
      0b1a9952       XPost: rec.radio.shortwave       From: DPeterMaus@att.net              On 11/27/11 21:15 , rrusston@hotmail.com wrote:       >       >>       >> Valves have a place in audio, for the truly faithful. But then,       >> audio only requires a few valve types, frequencies are easily       >> managed, and circuitry remains stable for much longer periods of       >> use. Whereas radio applications require more sophisticated valve       >> construction, and significantly different valve types for given       >> applications, to accomodate frequencies that stretch from 10X to       >> 100000X audio frequencies.       >>       >> What's comforting in radio with valve technology, is the general       >> sense that the technology itself is accessible. And widely       >> understood to be more forgiving. That valves may be removed, tested,       >> and replaced by the techologically limited, and operated under       >> conditions that would destroy solid state. Whereas, SS receivers,       >> self service requires a much higher level of skill, with a much       >> lower threshold of abuse. For those with limited technological       >> experience, this can be daunting. Especially, as in the case of this       >> receiver, during an emergency, where supply lines are uncertain, and       >> technical support is nonexistent.       >>       >> I can see where the OP is coming from. Build an accessible       >> receiver that's fairly forgiving to extremes in noise, signal       >> levels, voltage, and hostile events, and you'd have a generally       >> useful rig for the general population in an emergency. It's a nice       >> thought.       >>       >> But as has been pointed out here multiple times, SS technology in       >> a proper design has proven more resistant to EMP than generally       >> believed, operating voltages are easier to generate, and manage,       >> power requirements are lower, and performace of the technology is       >> dramatically improved since the days of valve receivers. All at a       >> fraction of the cost. And in an emergency, valve supplies will be       >> just as short as SS components.       >>       >> All of which points to the fact that a well designed kit radio for       >> use in emergencies would be more like the Ten-Tec 1254, than it       >> would be like a Hallicrafters S-40. And the Ten-Tec 1254 is a kit,       >> costs $200, and requires no user alignment, but offers significant       >> performance across the spectrum from LF through HF.       >>       >> In a package that's available now.       >       > No regen offers simplicity of use and selectivity, nor is the demod       > audio very good in most cases.       >                      Ten-Tec 1254 is a superhet.                     > A real SW-3 with a transformer in place of the watchcase headset was       > tested by a friend in a screen room with HP test gear for SINAD and       > audio quality. The rig consisted of HP, 8640B and 339A as I recall and       > minimum AM distortion was six or seven percent, but that was only at       > something like -20 dBm input and 60% modulation. I can't remember what       > SINAD was.....it was dismal.       >       > Passive TRF sets, i.e., "crystal radios" were capable of very good       > fidelity OTOH. The old Millen was capable of equaling the test set's       > own performance. Again you had to drive the hell out of it though.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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