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   Lord Valve to rrusston@hotmail.com   
   Re: High power guitar amps are a dead is   
   01 Feb 12 07:47:50   
   
   bc0c3616   
   From: detritus@ix.netcom.com   
      
   rrusston@hotmail.com wrote:   
      
   > On Jan 31, 11:14 am, Lord Valve  wrote:   
   > > rruss...@hotmail.com wrote:   
   > > >  No one needs them anymore: you mic a smaller amp. No metal band runs   
   > > > more than one or two of the array of Marshall stacks they like to have   
   > > > and Marshall supplies dummy cabs and heads to many of them.   
   > >   
   > > Define "high power."   
   > >   
   > > LV   
   >   
   > Certainly more than 50 to 100 watts-and the growth has been in 5 to   
   > 25-30 watt amps mostly.   
      
   Very few tube guitar amps over 100 watts output were ever produced.   
      
   The Marshall Major, the Ampeg V-9 (lead guitar version   
   of the SVT) and the Hiwatt DR-201 come to mind, but   
   none have been produced for quite a while now. Fender   
   made the horrid-sounding Super Twin (180 watts claimed;   
   could do maybe 130 with new tubes and high line voltage)   
   and the even more horrid-sounding PS-300.  Amps   
   in the 50-100 watt range are still in production and still   
   quite popular.   
      
   > The AC30 is neither really "Class A" nor really 30 watts-it will put   
   > out quite a bit more if the signal level in is high enough.   
      
   You can argue with Phil about that one.   
      
   It's Class A until you run it hard.  Good luck getting   
   "quite a bit more" than 30 watts out of four El-84s,   
   though.   
      
   > A lot of AC15 and AC30 clones are being built.   
      
   The Chinese ones are shit.   
      
      
   Lord Valve   
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