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|    patrick-turner to All    |
|    Re: Luxman SQ38D (1/2)    |
|    16 Nov 12 01:34:54    |
      e4d8f4fe       From: info@turneraudio.com.au              > But she's been unable to focus much on her audio hobby       > interests because of her heavy committments to well paying job at a       > university.       >       > ** The uni's workshops must be where she gets all that nice metalwork and       > cabinetry done.       >       > Foreign orders anyone ??              I doubt it. Unfortunately, perhaps you don't know Susan as well as I       do, and bearing in mind your own difficulties with females and your       sprinklings of negativity I can only smile at your comments, and I       hope in that in the fullness of time you would find a wealth of       personal pleasures to be had where you wouldn't dream of dissmissing       so many people because you can gain access to their wit, their       determination to genuinely discuss things, and other wondrous facets       of human bevaiour so that you benefit as they might, without duress,       or verbal scaldings of boiling oil when there are inevitable       dissagreements, as indeed there must be for any of us to attain       wisdom.              Well you may complain about the costs of building a minimamlist       amplifier with just an input tranny and output tranny and 2 N mosfets       in source follower mode and class A. Ah, but the cost you say -       hopeless silly effort. Indeed cost is high, but all hobbies are all a       waste of time and money when that time and money could be put towards       fine charitable causes, or medical research, or R&D for a company       wanting to make 1 square metre solar panels that are 50% efficient for       $2 each, with lightweight batteries to go with them. Surely the       persuit of listening to music with valve amps is a true monumental       waste of human resources, and you'd prefer them all to beat a path to       your door to get advice on how to make an amp for $3, weighing less       than 100 grams and 99% efficient. Of course that's exactly where the       audio industry had headed with PWM amps fed by digital audio signals,       so the world beat you to it. Its another huge tragic waste that the       world wants 6.1 home theatre, with screens 10 feet wide and suburban       houses which compete with those owned by Louis IXV, and of course       everyone needs 2 cars each and they want to each eat enough to feed a       family of 16 Africans, and only vote for parties that give out yet       more Guvvy assistance. They then spnd hundreds of thousands on       expensive messy acrimonious divorces, and while learning nothing,       repeat it all. So I see your point in complaining about the cost of       Susan's minimalism approach. Don't worry, she more than compensates by       not having children and living a very simple life while owning a push       bike, while battling on in a maddening world.              I'm left wondering also about what became of your website? Where has       it gone? But then it dawned on me that perhaps you never got around to       inviting the world to your mind, so they may see how good audio could       be achieved. Was it all too vain and selfish to make a website? That's       a real pity considering you have vast knowledge. Nobody I know, except       possibly someone who might be your twin, would frown on having a       website.              In 1990 I frivolously built a pair class A amps with 4 mosefts with an       OPT. Mosfets are driven by LTP with 2 garden variety bjts in LTP and       one for a CCS. It has cap coupling, and works just fine, and gives 40       Watts in class A with THD < 0.3%. I've never found anyone to say it       sounds worse than a tube amp with 4 x EL34 etc, and one may wonder why       I made these things but I enjoyed the experience and it taught me       more. One of these days I may convert it to Circlotron and have a pair       of EL84 as input/drivers, but I may never find the time.              Susan's amp has a step up input tranny with 600 ohms impedance. The 2V       input must be raised to roughly 30V output for gate to gate drive, and       to get input Z = 600r, the sec load must be 136k, and if Sec C load =       100pF, then Cin at Pri = 0.022uF. I'm guesstimating here but HF roll       off would trouble many people unless thay had a very low drive source       powering the IPT and if they didn't have a decent IPT.       Sue just uses a power mosfet as source follower to drive the IPT. The       lower the drive source Z, the less the characteristics of IPT and OPT       will cause distortions. Of course many say its a waste, but it matters       not, and the status quo is stained by productions governed by       accountants, and anything other than what mainstream industry does       becomes invalid.              Anyway, using a pair of EL84 in triode with Ra = 2k5 to drive perhaps       50pF of input C at gates seems a reasonable solution. Having mosfets       in circlotron with simple OPT means you have matching devices, and if       Vds on each mosfet is 20Vrms, then gate drive = about 10.5Vrms Vg-0V,       and the amp Rout is low enough and because class A, and ß = 0.5 and       open loop mosfet A = about 20, then THD is low, bandwidth vert wide,       and so you get hi-fi, fairly simply, without GNFB, or an IPT. The OPT       is probably best if an auto tranny, and can have 8 ohms input end to       end for 50 Watts of output with 20Vrms. If OPT core = 50mm stack of       50mm tongue E&I with partial air gapping for µe = 3,000, then wire       size is large and its quite easy to wind. On each side of PP circuit I       think a good load is 32 ohms for each of 4 class A mosfets, so that       all four drive the OPT primary of 8 ohms. Taps for 4 ohms and 2 ohms       are easy but I'm still not sure of HF performance because with say 2       ohms, using 1/2 the total auto tranny turns, the leakage inductance       affects the HF pole.       I'm trying to figure out a decent winding set up that allows many Z       combinations so as RL is lowered, the class A action remains and the       amp doesn't move into class AB.              There doesn't seem to be very much online about making audio auto-       trannies with very low winding losses and HF losses for Z range       between say 1 ohm and 64 ohms. Having an auto tranny which gave say 64       ohms to 4 ohms would be a boon to owners of tubed OTL amps. They tend       to become dissolutioned by OTL tubes suffering bias failure from       overheating due to the inevitable very poor load matching even with       multiple 6C33c output tubes. The load line analysis I've done on 6C33c       indicates good class A is available if Ea = +160V and RLa = 250r, and       Pda = 60W with Ia at around 370mA. 4 such tubes in class A can give       40Watts, and OPT primary RL can be 62.5 ohms. To my mind, this is       superior to using the same tubes hooked directly to 8 ohms and forcing       tubes on each side of PP circuit with low bias, and in class AB2, to       each produce say 1.4 amp peak current. 40W into 8 ohms is 3.15 peak       amps, so at least 6 x 6C33c are wise, and Pda with continuous signal       invites smoke, and things get worse with 4 ohms. Auiophile say they              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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