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|    patrick-turner to Phil Allison    |
|    Re: Questions for Pat Turner    |
|    12 Jul 13 22:51:14    |
      From: info@turneraudio.com.au              Andre spake to us all with .......                     rOn Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:16:25 AM UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:               > BTW it is perfectly possible to enjoy rock / pop music with one pair of        >        > ESL57s or ESL63s.        >        > Back in the day, my favourite LPs were by people like Jimi Hendrix, Janis        >        > Joplin, Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck, Fleetwod Mack and Linda Ronstadt.        >        > Lack of dBs was never an issue.        >        > ... Phil               It's great to see you're still in fine fettle, Phil. -- Andre                      Interesting prose from Andre as usual.              But I had a customer with 3 stacked pairs of ESL57 and I sold him an 8585 tube       amp to drive them. I'd worked for this fellow for over 10 years to restore his       amps. The guy liked a wide variety of music including classical, pop, jazz -       whatever. Room wasn'       t all that large. Anyone could say he "had an unecessary excess of audio gear"       but that's just what the man liked, and he had the dough to pay for it, and to       maintain it all. Pancreatic cancer claimed his life last year though, and his       4 sons have his        gear now. Rather than be predjudiced about Jimmy's capabilities to set up a       system with stacked Quads, I tried to point out the technical issues involved.       Most often, when I take the time to do this, many if not most readers are       quite unable to        understand much I have said.               I once was very interested in yachts at age 33, post divorce, and I built a       couple of models to explore in detail what I might build on land for launching       by say age 40. Not 68 feet. I figured about 50 feet would be fine, but then I       realised the bit        about tearing up $100 bills abd throwing them overboard, and having to fund       the running of the yacht by trafficking drugs or some other nafariousness.       Nah, I chickened out, and I kept my house, and I woke up that yacting is       mainly for poseurs, and that a        bicycle would offer me all the opportunity to get away from the maddening       crowd, in addition to living in a ruined sheep paddock, where Canberra is       located.              In 1970s, to be social, I was a bit taken in by some of the pop, but I think I       failed to really connect mentally with it because the "stars" such as       Fleetwood Mac were so drug riddled and such "false people", and their songs       spewed forth BS ideas. I        considered most pop stars to be fuckwits who were useless at doing anything       constructive, and just because they gesticulated and screamed around a stage       making noise like tomcat with cracker up arse didn't make them appeal to me at       all. The syrapy BS of        the Beatles was "girly music".       Mick screamed he couldn't get any satisfaction. What the fuck was wrong with       the little short git?        Anyway, I spent most of my 20s with folk because people sang about stuff that       actually mattered sometimes. I quite liked Rye Cooder, and Taj Mahal.        Now, having heard all that stuff more than once, I prefer music without words       I am meant to understand so some but not all opera seems OK, but some pure       instrumental classical has far more appeal. Of course some classical is just       written to antagonise        the piano player's abilities, and to assault the listener. I find Bruckner and       Mahler a bit over the top. My radio picks up more than one station and has       on/off switch, and at times there's nothing on anywhere that I like so I turn       off. The radio saves        me from collecting music, and the costs of buying stuff I'd later get bored       with.              I visited a local arts center here today, there was a folk trio there, trinket       and clothing sold off tables and harmless old hippies, harmless young ppl,       good food, and better than inside a shopping mall with musak.        Patrick Turner.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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