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   patrick-turner to Phil Allison   
   Re: Questions for Pat Turner   
   12 Jul 13 22:51:14   
   
   From: info@turneraudio.com.au   
      
   Andre spake to us all with .......   
      
      
   rOn Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:16:25 AM UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:    
      
   > BTW  it is perfectly possible to enjoy rock / pop music with one pair of    
   >    
   > ESL57s or ESL63s.    
   >    
   > Back in the day, my favourite LPs were by people like Jimi Hendrix, Janis    
   >    
   > Joplin, Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck, Fleetwod Mack and Linda Ronstadt.    
   >    
   > Lack of dBs was never an issue.    
   >    
   > ...  Phil    
      
   It's great to see you're still in fine fettle, Phil. -- Andre    
      
      
   Interesting prose from Andre as usual.   
      
   But I had a customer with 3 stacked pairs of ESL57 and I sold him an 8585 tube   
   amp to drive them. I'd worked for this fellow for over 10 years to restore his   
   amps. The guy liked a wide variety of music including classical, pop, jazz -   
   whatever. Room wasn'   
   t all that large. Anyone could say he "had an unecessary excess of audio gear"   
   but that's just what the man liked, and he had the dough to pay for it, and to   
   maintain it all. Pancreatic cancer claimed his life last year though, and his   
   4 sons have his    
   gear now. Rather than be predjudiced about Jimmy's capabilities to set up a   
   system with stacked Quads, I tried to point out the technical issues involved.   
   Most often, when I take the time to do this, many if not most readers are   
   quite unable to    
   understand much I have said.    
      
   I once was very interested in yachts at age 33, post divorce, and I built a   
   couple of models to explore in detail what I might build on land for launching   
   by say age 40. Not 68 feet. I figured about 50 feet would be fine, but then I   
   realised the bit    
   about tearing up $100 bills abd throwing them overboard, and having to fund   
   the running of the yacht by trafficking drugs or some other nafariousness.   
   Nah, I chickened out, and I kept my house, and I woke up that yacting is   
   mainly for poseurs, and that a    
   bicycle would offer me all the opportunity to get away from the maddening   
   crowd, in addition to living in a ruined sheep paddock, where Canberra is   
   located.   
      
   In 1970s, to be social, I was a bit taken in by some of the pop, but I think I   
   failed to really connect mentally with it because the "stars" such as   
   Fleetwood Mac were so drug riddled and such "false people", and their songs   
   spewed forth BS ideas. I    
   considered most pop stars to be fuckwits who were useless at doing anything   
   constructive, and just because they gesticulated and screamed around a stage   
   making noise like tomcat with cracker up arse didn't make them appeal to me at   
   all. The syrapy BS of    
   the Beatles was "girly music".   
   Mick screamed he couldn't get any satisfaction. What the fuck was wrong with   
   the little short git?    
   Anyway, I spent most of my 20s with folk because people sang about stuff that   
   actually mattered sometimes. I quite liked Rye Cooder, and Taj Mahal.    
   Now, having heard all that stuff more than once, I prefer music without words   
   I am meant to understand so some but not all opera seems OK, but some pure   
   instrumental classical has far more appeal. Of course some classical is just   
   written to antagonise    
   the piano player's abilities, and to assault the listener. I find Bruckner and   
   Mahler a bit over the top. My radio picks up more than one station and has   
   on/off switch, and at times there's nothing on anywhere that I like so I turn   
   off. The radio saves    
   me from collecting music, and the costs of buying stuff I'd later get bored   
   with.   
      
   I visited a local arts center here today, there was a folk trio there, trinket   
   and clothing sold off tables and harmless old hippies, harmless young ppl,   
   good food, and better than inside a shopping mall with musak.    
   Patrick Turner.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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