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|    Phil Allison to All    |
|    Re: Compton reverse log pot, tubed Wien     |
|    23 Sep 13 14:16:07    |
      From: phil_a@tpg.com.au              "patrick-turner"              In a previous post about my radical surgery performed on an       BWD Electronics 141 oscilator, I mentioned I had troubles       with the original Compton pot used to alter the F within each       range. The Compton is a wire wound item with adequate       power ratings, and it reputed to work smoothly without Vo       jitter or bounce, and with linearlity between DC and at       MHz. But I found it performed with jittery Vo for the parts       of the ranges where it did work, and for part of each range       the oscillations stopped or went wild. I decided the pot was       terminally sick, so I replaced it with 12 pos make before       break switch.              I re-examined the 2 gang pot, and although it looks impossible       to separate the two sealed pots, but the outermost has a metal       which can be easily prised off. I plotted the R values for each       and soon found a region where outermost pot had an open       connection between wiper and resistance wire track. Both pots       measured similar R where the wipers of both did connect to the       their tracks.              I was lucky the sick pot was the only one that seemed accessible       I found some grease had been used for lubrication, but no sign of       any corrosion or fault in the wiper operation and all mechanical       aspects looked brand new. BUT, sure enough, wiper contact       wasn't being made at a small length of the track, so I cleaned the       track + wiper without damaging the hair thin wire. I thought a bit       more use might dislodge the tiny spot of hard oxide that may exist       on the resistance wire track. No luck, and I gave up after an hour       or two, and felt vindicated that I'd replaced the darn pot with the       best thing I had laying around.       So when Phil says the Compton Pot is a blessed marvel that       enabled superlative oscillators to be made, it could never have       been alwats true, because pots can become defective, or maybe       even be defective when they are sold.              ** You have seen one faulty WW pot in a BWD141 - probably the only faulty       one that ever existed.              " I was cleaning up my workshop when I discovered I had been given an old       BWD Electronics       141A audio oscillator which had many problems. "              There is a big clue there ....                     Wire wound pots can be notoriously jerky with Vo levels.       But OK when not being moved, when they are then usually noisless.              ** I have always found WW pots to be highly reliable and long lived.              1. The voltage control on my most used bench PSU has a 10 kohm WW pot made       by IRH in Sydney, Australia - been in daily use for nearly 30 years, still       works perfect.              2. The two fine adjust controls on my Wien bridge notch filter are 200ohm 10       turn WW types - allows up to -100dB notch depth at 66, 996 and 5855 Hz.       They are 30 years old too, got them the same time I bought my Sony CD101       player.              3. I have two Compton dual gang WW pots, same as the one PT is so down on.       One is 40 years old and the other 24 years old. They both work perfectly.              To overcome the issue with fine frequency adjustment, I fitted 500ohm, 10       turn WW pots in series with one of the sections of each Comptom pot - which       is 2 x 15kohms. Makes it easy to set any frequency up to 50kHz, +/- 1Hz.              Stability is good enough to work with the -100dB notch filter, which at 996       Hz has a notch width of about 0.02 Hz.                            .... Phil              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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