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|    Peter Wieck to Patrick Turner    |
|    Re: Andrew Jute KISS 194    |
|    28 Jun 16 06:16:46    |
      From: pfjw@aol.com              On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 11:13:02 AM UTC-4, Patrick Turner wrote:              > That looks like a horn loaded speaker. I don't have details. But a guy here       tried to make a pair very similar for a 5" full range driver. No matter what       amp he used, the sound was very poor and well below the quality expected, ie,       he ended up with "       expensive firewood" so you really do need to be some kind of expert to       succeed, and enclosure resonaces can be quite a bother.       > I witnessed several fellows trying to make horn speakers, all failed, except       those who used restored midrange and treble JBL drivers where they just       renewed parts, but didn't have to do any woodwork or calculations to try to       get good bass.        > Patrick Turner.              The fundamental problem with a single-driver horn loaded speaker is that it is       a single-driver horn-loaded speaker. It cannot have enough surface area and       excursion to move/vibrate sufficient air to reproduce the full audio spectrum       to any reasonable        volume. The typical response curve is down about 30 dB at 20 Hz, and about 20       dB at 20K Hz, altogether nasty except in the range of the human voice or so.       And already down 10 dB at 9K Hz...               Now, JBL sacrificed sound stage (dispersion) for efficiency and so their       speakers are very directional. Just a little bit off-axis and the sound really       dropped off. HOWEVER, on-axis, they were excellent examples of "California       Sound" - bright, loud, and        did I mention Bright and Loud? As it was a matter of deliberate choice and       executed reasonably well, although I personally think that sound is crap,       there are those that do not, and those could do considerably worse.               I prefer the Boston sound, and have the power to drive the mostly very       inefficient speakers that are the result of those deliberate choices. My       'best' speakers, however, are Maggies that are within 3 dB from 32 Hz to 40K       Hz, something that no consumer-       directed horn on the planet can match. They are power-pigs, but so what? Point       being that self-executed horn speakers are not for the faint of heart or for       those with any sort of sonic expectations whatsoever. They are an interesting       pimple on the soft        underbelly of DIY audio, and for those with money and time to waste (term       chosen deliberately) they may be an interesting project - with results similar       to nailing Jell-O or peeling raisins. De gustibus et coloribus non est       disputandum.              Peter Wieck       Melrose Park, PA               --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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