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|    Phil Allison to Big Bad Bob    |
|    Re: The most important tubes ever made..    |
|    03 Feb 19 16:17:27    |
      From: pallison49@gmail.com              Big Bad Bob wrote:              > >       > >>       > >> And of course a guitar amp is probably going to be designed to pass a       > >> more limited frequency range. You can see that when you look at       > >> replacement output transformers, typically rated for 100Hz to maybe 4kHz       > >> as opposed to a 20Hz-20kHz range for hifi/stereo amplifiers.       > >>       > >       > > ** The output transformers used in tube guitar amps are normally a lot       better than you suggest.       > >       > > Eg: A Marshall 50W output transformer has its upper -3dB point at 45kHz.       > >       > > The small signal, low frequency response is -3dB at 1Hz (yes, one Hertz)       but core saturation at rated power becomes dominant below about 5OHz.       > >       > > IME most output transformers used in brand name amps have similar specs.       >       >       > hmmm, that goes against what I've read over on 'amplifiedparts.com' for       > 'original replacement' transformers, as opposed to the ones made by       > Hammond (which are nearly always better).       >               ** Never rely on " information " posted on web sites written by musicians and       storekeepers.                            > the DC blocking capacitors in guitar amps _are_ de-rated a bit over what       > you'd see in a hi fi system, last I went through one. Tone controls are       > also a little strange compared to hi fi equivalents. But it's part of       > "the sound" [and also costs less, which I think is what drove it].                            ** Guitar amps have many differences from " hi-fi" amps, the most significant       of which are:              1. Low or no negative feedback around the output stage, so THD is relatively       high at 2 to 5% below clipping.              2. Low class AB bias, so full power operation is mainly class B exaggerating       point 1.              3. High output impedance, due mainly to point 1.              4. Non flat response from the tone circuits ( typically the treble end is       boosted ) and deliberate distortion incorporated in same.              Of course, the speakers fitted to combo amps have limited response, 70 to 4kHz       with a presence peak around 2 to 3 KHz being typical.              But they ARE damn efficient, up to 105dB/watt for some 12 inch models.                     .... Phil              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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