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|    Phil Allison to Xtrchessreal    |
|    Re: Triode Naming Convention    |
|    02 Oct 20 16:34:12    |
      From: pallison49@gmail.com              Xtrchessreal wrote:              =======================       > > > Section 1 is so called due to lower hum compared to section 2.       > > >       >       > > ** The 2 triodes of a 12AX7 / ECC83 are identical,       > > one doe not "hum" more than the other.       =====================================================       > >       > > Internal connection arrangements for grids and heaters vary       > > between versions and brands, maybe having a small effect       > > on capacitive coupling if high impedances feed he grids.       > >       > > It is very common to use DC voltage for the heaters to       > > eliminate any issues whether grid or cathode related.       > >       >       > Just read the REMARK on the bottom of page one. https://drtub       .com/datasheets/ecc83-philips1970.pdf                     ** My post is *about that exact remark* - explaining it.              An *earthed* internal link from pin 9 travels past grid pin 7 in the scenario       described. A link carrying 3.13VAC travels past grid pin 2.              This might inject up to 1mV into pin 2 if the grid source impedance were       *10Mohms*. However, for a MM phono cartridge, the impedance is 1kohm at       50/60Hz and for a guitar PU about 10kokms.              So hum injection falls to under 1 microvolt in the above examples and is       buried in tube noise - so completely inaudible.              > I don't understand the perpetual misinformation.              ** There is a great deal more to your not understanding.              > But hey, thanks for making my point more clear.              ** You never made any clear point - sunshine.              .... Phil              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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