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   Tobiah to All   
   Effects pedal in FX loop?   
   30 Mar 24 13:46:04   
   
   From: toby@tobiah.org   
      
   I hae a Zoom G1X four that I will use with a Crate TX30BE amp.   
   I've seen videos that demonstrate that delay and reverb effects   
   sound much better in the effects loop, but I think it's because   
   they were overdriving the preamp, and distorting a reverb signal   
   sounds worse then reverbing a distorted signal.   
      
   But what about the signal levels?  I assume that the 'send' jack   
   on my amp is post preamp, so would I be sending a line level signal   
   to the pedal if I put it in the FX loop?  The manual for the G1X four   
   gives these figures:   
      
      Input:   
        Rate input level: -20 dBu   
        Input impedance (line): 470 KOhm   
      
      Output:   
        Max output Line   
        Line +2 dBu (10 kΩ or more output impedance)   
        Headphones 17 mW + 17 mW (32 Ω load)   
      
   There is only one input jack and one output jack.   
   I read the manual and it doesn't seem to have a line/instrument   
   setting.   
      
   When overdriving the preamp, many suggest putting any drive/distortion   
   pedals in front of the preamp, with time shifters like reverb chorus and   
   delay in the FX loop.   
      
   I'm actually going to be runing this clean most of the time, so with   
   max master knob level, setting volume with the premp.  In that case I   
   think I'd be ok running the pedal in front, and if I did want a   
   distorted sound, I've have to rely solely on the pedal for that, without   
   overdriving the preamp.   
      
   So I'm really wondering whether the pedal is more at home at front or   
   in the loop from a levels standpoint.   
      
      
   Toby   
      
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