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   david gourley to All   
   Re: Effects pedal in FX loop?   
   31 Mar 24 14:19:42   
   
   From: davidg2500nospam@yahoo.com   
      
   Tobiah  said...news:uu952v$118hi$1@dont-email.me:   
      
   > I hae a Zoom G1X four that I will use with a Crate TX30BE amp.   
   > I've seen videos that demonstrate that delay and reverb effects   
   > sound much better in the effects loop, but I think it's because   
   > they were overdriving the preamp, and distorting a reverb signal   
   > sounds worse then reverbing a distorted signal.   
   >   
   > But what about the signal levels?  I assume that the 'send' jack   
   > on my amp is post preamp, so would I be sending a line level signal   
   > to the pedal if I put it in the FX loop?  The manual for the G1X four   
   > gives these figures:   
   >   
   >    Input:   
   >      Rate input level: -20 dBu   
   >      Input impedance (line): 470 KOhm   
   >   
   >    Output:   
   >      Max output Line   
   >      Line +2 dBu (10 kΩ or more output impedance)   
   >      Headphones 17 mW + 17 mW (32 Ω load)   
   >   
   > There is only one input jack and one output jack.   
   > I read the manual and it doesn't seem to have a line/instrument   
   > setting.   
   >   
   > When overdriving the preamp, many suggest putting any drive/distortion   
   > pedals in front of the preamp, with time shifters like reverb chorus and   
   > delay in the FX loop.   
   >   
   > I'm actually going to be runing this clean most of the time, so with   
   > max master knob level, setting volume with the premp.  In that case I   
   > think I'd be ok running the pedal in front, and if I did want a   
   > distorted sound, I've have to rely solely on the pedal for that, without   
   > overdriving the preamp.   
   >   
   > So I'm really wondering whether the pedal is more at home at front or   
   > in the loop from a levels standpoint.   
   >   
   >   
   > Toby   
   >   
      
   You really want to have an effects pedal that can be connected using the "4   
   cable method."  That allows the pedal to use both the input and the Efx   
   loop, routing overdrive, etc to the front end while putting reverb, etc on   
   the Efx loop.   
      
   I use a Line 6 HX-Effects that allows for this operation.  Not sure if the   
   G1X does or not.   
      
   david   
      
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