From: kludge@panix.com   
      
   In article , Tobiah   wrote:   
   >I hae a Zoom G1X four that I will use with a Crate TX30BE amp.   
   >I've seen videos that demonstrate that delay and reverb effects   
   >sound much better in the effects loop, but I think it's because   
   >they were overdriving the preamp, and distorting a reverb signal   
   >sounds worse then reverbing a distorted signal.   
      
   Right.  The whole point of the effects loop is that it is about   
   instrument level, but it's after the first amplifier stage.  So you   
   can overdrive the preamp before the effects if that's your thing,   
   without overdriving the effects.   
      
   >But what about the signal levels?  I assume that the 'send' jack   
   >on my amp is post preamp, so would I be sending a line level signal   
   >to the pedal if I put it in the FX loop?  The manual for the G1X four   
   >gives these figures:   
   >   
   >   Input:   
   >     Rate input level: -20 dBu   
   >     Input impedance (line): 470 KOhm   
   >   
   >   Output:   
   >     Max output Line   
   >     Line +2 dBu (10 kΩ or more output impedance)   
   >     Headphones 17 mW + 17 mW (32 Ω load)   
   >   
   >There is only one input jack and one output jack.   
      
   None of this stuff is "line level" and the levels are actually all over   
   the place, which is why they all have knobs on them.  All this stuff is   
   designed to be overdriven too, though you may or may not like how it   
   sounds being overdriven.  This is why you get choices.   
      
   >I read the manual and it doesn't seem to have a line/instrument   
   >setting.   
      
   Yes, the concept of line level is mostly absent in the instrument world,   
   except for interfaces between instruments and studio gear.   
      
   >When overdriving the preamp, many suggest putting any drive/distortion   
   >pedals in front of the preamp, with time shifters like reverb chorus and   
   >delay in the FX loop.   
   >   
   >I'm actually going to be runing this clean most of the time, so with   
   >max master knob level, setting volume with the premp.  In that case I   
   >think I'd be ok running the pedal in front, and if I did want a   
   >distorted sound, I've have to rely solely on the pedal for that, without   
   >overdriving the preamp.   
      
   You could do that and it would be fine, but the levels will be set   
   differently than if you had the pedals in the loop.  Is this good?   
   I don't know, that depends on how you want it to sound.   
      
   >So I'm really wondering whether the pedal is more at home at front or   
   >in the loop from a levels standpoint.   
      
   The levels are more or less the same in both places, although the   
   levels in the loop are more easily controlled.   
   --scott   
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