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|    Geoff to Tobiah    |
|    Re: New 32bit recorders    |
|    31 Jul 25 10:44:09    |
      From: geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org              On 30/07/2025 1:30 am, Tobiah wrote:       > I'm intrigued by the new wave of recorders that       > utilize one ADC set to a low gain, and one set       > to a higher gain. Backed by 32bit float, it would       > seem on the surface that there is no need to adjust       > gain, and indeed these new models often don't have       > a way to do that.       >       > It seems to me though that there might be some       > compromise there. Take very quiet sounds - sounds       > that in this case might only use a half, or quarter       > or even a tenth of the range of the ADC that is       > more sensitive. With a normal recorder, I'd increase       > the gain to approach the capacity of the ADC. Now,       > I get that I don't have to worry about digital noise       > because of the 32bit float, but on the analog side       > I'm really just going in with gain set too low for the premp.       > I mean isn't that why we generally set gain near the top?       > I generally assume that the best noise performance       > is achieved at gain levels that bring the signal       > close to max level for the preamp. It seems like using the two       > ADC's is like giving me a low/high gain switch       > instead of a knob.       >       > I'm also curious about mid range and high level       > signals. Say the signal is strong enough to       > fill the lower sensitivity ADC half way. Does       > the signal use only the output of that one ADC       > in that case or is the waveform actually patched       > together using output from both?       >       > And again, say the signal makes it just 10% of the       > way into the lower sensitivity ADC. It seems like       > this is the same as recording from a regular preamp       > at low gain levels. The signal will have to be raised       > along with the noise floor, which I guess is why we       > don't usually record with too low a gain level.       >       >       > Toby              What are they trying to record - nuclear explosions next to ant-whispers       ?!!! Surely a 'good 24' would cover all music with headroom, and most       other real-world things.              On a technical front, without deeper explanation, I worry about the       'crossover' region between the ADCs.              --       geoff              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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