XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: arlenholder@newmachine.com   
      
   On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT), TimR wrote:   
      
   > I moved to a southern state some decades back, '   
   > with a good car for my wife and a beater for me.   
   > As I arrived one of the brake lines blew.   
      
   It happens.   
      
   Over my 60 years of driving, once I lost vacuum on a downslope, and had to   
   mash the pedal to get any braking; another time I lost a rubber brake line;   
   and a third, more recent time (couple of years ago), the master cylinder   
   needed to be rebuilt.   
      
   No brakes is no fun, but luckily, the parts are usually trivial to replace.   
      
   > The shop said the frame was rusted through   
      
   Lots of debate, but what the "frame" is on a modern car is up for grabs.   
   In the rust belt, it's normal for the underbody to be rusty.   
      
   > the next bump I hit it might break in half   
      
   Yeah. That sounds like the typical "scare tactics" I heard the tire shop   
   feed the woman in front of me that her tires were "dangerous", when they   
   had plenty of meat left.   
      
   > it couldn't be repaired or safely driven.   
      
   Hmmmm.... sounds like scare tactics, which I think you'd agree.   
      
   >  He wouldn't let me take it home for fear of liability.   
      
   Hmmmm... can someone legally impound your vehicle like that?   
      
   > I made him show me, but he was right.   
      
   Hmmmmmm.......   
      
   > It had been a Wisconsin car driven in heavy salt.   
      
   The rust belt exists.   
   Cars rust.   
      
   The OEMs know that, so they design it in, so to speak.   
      
   > I sold it to a neighbor for parts, full disclosure,   
   > not safe to drive.  Next week i saw his wife driving it,   
   > with a new inspection sticker.   
   > He said you just have to know where to take it.   
      
   Seems like the brakes were probably a line or two that needed replacing (it   
   happens), while the "frame" probably want's necessarily a "frame" but just   
   the underbody (which rusts as part of normal wear and tear).   
      
   In summary, it seems the repair shop tried fed people on fear.   
      
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