XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: "@frank.net   
      
   On 3/28/2021 8:16 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:   
   > On 3/28/21 7:21 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:   
   >> In article , wade@cooler.net says...   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course you change your filter every time  you change your oil!   
   >>>   
   >>> Here's why:   
   >>> You're already underneath the vehicle.   
   >>> The drain pan is in already place.   
   >>> You already have oily hands and a greasy smear on your face.   
   >>> You've already skinned your right hand knuckles and yelled Damn it!   
   >>> Walmart sells a standard Fram oil filter for $3.88 while Fram's "Ultra   
   >>> Synthetic 20,000 Mile Change Interval" filter goes for $8.57.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You have not changed the filter on some of the newer cars.  Toyota has   
   >> gone to an old timey cartrage type filter instead of the screw on ones.   
   >> You often have to remove much of the shielding or whatever you call that   
   >> stuff under the engine that helps with the wind resistance.   
   >>   
   >> As I have gotten lazy in the last few years and don't drive much, I just   
   >> take my car and truck to the dealer once a year and let them service it   
   >> and inspect it. Doubt they change the filter, but who knows ?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > You're right, it's been a while since I've been underneath a Toyota.   
   > Didn't know about the change to hidden cartridge filters.   
   >   
   > The oil filter in my wife's Subaru Forester is located on the top side   
   > of the engine opposite the battery with its threaded end facing down.   
   > You can remove the filter wearing white gloves and stay clean. The mess   
   > that drips down into the engine and onto the garage floor is another   
   > story however.   
   >   
      
   I had a 1998 Forester and filter and drain plug were on the bottom of   
   the engine and I had to use ramps to get at it and remove a cowling with   
   half dozen or so plastic push ins to get at it.  In next few years they   
   put in a small entry point in the cowling with still push ins to remove   
   then finally drain point unrestricted with filter on top of engine.   
      
   I have a Crosstrek now configured the same and in latter years with not   
   much driving just have the dealer service it.  Out of curiosity I   
   watched a You Tube video on a guy changing the oil and he had a   
   struggle getting off the factory installed filter.   
      
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UOy-nq-QYE   
      
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