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|    Ken Olson to Steve W.    |
|    Re: testing fuel pressure on a 3.3L 2005    |
|    04 Apr 21 00:35:31    |
      XPost: alt.home.repair       From: kolson@freedomnet.org              On 4/3/2021 10:11 PM, Steve W. wrote:       > micky wrote:       >> (I don't think I have a fuel problem, but when I'm reading about my car,       >> curiosity rears its head and I have questions.)       >> How come so many cars have a nipple on the fuel rail with which to test       >> fuel pressure, but 2005 3.3L Toyotas etc. make one insert a T-connector,       >> iiuc underneath the rear seat or just above the gas tank. And IIUC,       >> then you have to remove the T-connector when you're done. Much harder       >> to get to, and both chores are so much more effort than using a nipple       >> on the fuel rail.       >> Toyota is not usually inconvenient, afaict, so what is going on here?       >>       >>       >> Oh, and why does the shop manual not include pictures? It only has       >> outline sketches (not even detailed sketches)? I've had Pontiacs and       >> Chryslers and I bought the shop manual for my brother's Ford, iow all of       >> the Big Three, and every one had much more informative manuals than       >> either of my Toyotas'.       >> And there is constant reference to toyota-specific test equipment etc.       >> Basically, I can't tell a thing from the shop manual and have to rely on       >> youtube videos and on webpages. Whereas with American cars, the shop       >> manual was all I needed to fix them.       >>       >> Is it that Toyota manuals are designed only for the mechanic and not for       >> anyone without a lot of experience?       >> Are all Japanese shop manuals like Toyota's?       >> Is this an example of foreigners with an elitist social hierarchy, or at       >> least a strict one, unlike America where there is a belief that anyone       >> can learn to do anything? --- I've exaggerated the American part       >> some, but I do seriously intend the general nature of the question.       >       > Lot's of vehicles out there don't have a test port, not just Toyota.       > It's why shops buy master fuel pressure test kits that include a ton of       > adapters and you still don't have all of them.       >       > As for the information, that also depends on the manufacturer, some give       > a write up and little visual info while others show just a cartoon like       > picture with a simple guide.       >       > Special tools are a way of life on vehicles. Some can be shop made       > others you spend big money on to use them once. ALL vehicles are built       > for a mechanic that has experience these days, and the companies want to       > keep it even closer, if they could require that only dealers worked on       > them they would, and some are that way now (Tesla and Apple both being       > examples of those restrictions) They claim everything is intellectual       > property and you "buying the car" only means you are buying the use of       > the vehicle, not ownership or the ability to repair them. Just like       > software companies.       >              John Deere fall into the control camp.              --       ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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