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   Steve W. to All   
   Re: 02 sensor and better gas mileage   
   09 Apr 21 16:08:37   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: csr684@NOTyahoo.com   
      
   Tekkie© wrote:   
   > On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 01:57:23 -0400, Steve W. posted for all of us to   
   digest...   
   >   
   >> micky wrote:   
   >>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 08 Apr 2021 22:46:39 -0400, micky   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Or try the smoke tester.   
   >>>> I think we talked about this last year, but I was not despairing yet.   
   >>>> They have one for sale for 100, another for 120, and one for 900.  WRT   
   >>>> rental, autozone and advance don't have it, but there was a PepBoys   
   >>>> page, so I called the local Pepboys and he knew almost nothing about it.   
   >>>> I called maybe a bigger Pepboys and he didnt' either but he asked   
   >>>> someone and indded they have such a machine.  He didn't even know how   
   >>>> much it costs, but the web page said $30.   Well worth it if it works. I   
   >>>> hope they have someone there who stills knows how to use it.   And they   
   >>>> want two hours.  Maybe more.  I guess I can just go and keep busy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I've never used one, but have read of   
   >>>>> other people using them and sounds like in principle it would work.   
   >>>> Yes, it does.   
   >>> There certainly are a lot of videos about car repair. I haven't watched   
   >>> it yet but this one is about how to make your own smoke machine!  "Easy   
   >>> and fun to build"  What could be better than that.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm sure it's satisfying to make a good video and have people watch it,   
   >>> but do they also make money somehow?   
   >>>   
   >> A smoke machine is handy but you can do the same testing on a running   
   >> car with a can of carb cleaner. The idea with the smoke is that it will   
   >> pressurize everything and the smoke leaks out, It won't show internal   
   >> leaks though.   
   >>   
   >> I built a paint can style a long time ago, it works. For a cheap smoker   
   >> you don't need much really, just a can to hold a smoldering fuel source   
   >> a hose to connect to the vehicle and a small air source to push the   
   >> smoke. Even a cheap aquarium pump will do that. You want between 1/2 and   
   >> 1 psi of pressure as higher pressures can damage EVAP parts. A cheap way   
   >> to get that is a BBQ regulator. Fuel wise I've seen people use the same   
   >> materials that beekeepers put in their smokers, and even seen people rig   
   >> those up to work as well.   
   >   
   > You don't want smoke that will ruin sensors and cause more problems & $$$$   
   >   
      
   True, but most dry smoke isn't going to be an issue for that as it's not   
   going to stick to components. I've tried to contaminate MAF and )2   
   sensors just to see what it really takes to get them to skew and it's   
   surprising what really hurts them. The biggest thing is oil, either oil   
   mist from the PCV or from someone going all K&N on them. Things that go   
   by but leave no residue were fine.   
      
      
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