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|    Xeno to All    |
|    Re: Carbon buildup on all valves for 200    |
|    18 Jun 21 18:06:43    |
      From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au              On 18/6/21 1:40 am, AK wrote:       > On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 7:09:47 AM UTC-5, Xeno wrote:       >> On 17/6/21 11:38 am, AK wrote:       >>> After replacing ignition coil and plug for #3 cylinder, my mechanic found       heavy carbon buildup on all valves. The car only has 108K miles. He is       replacing the fuel injector and egr valve along with cleaning the valves.       >> The engine in those is a Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) and they have a       >> habit of coating the intake tract and the *backs* of the *inlet valves*       >> with carbon. That is because the engine *injects* fuel directly into the       >> cylinder so the intake tract and backs of inlet valves never gets fuel       >> wash as they would were the engine carbureted or port injected.       >> What happens is the PCV and EGR system contribute to an oil film in the       >> intake system and this unburnt oil and fuel turns into carbon on the       >> backs of the hot inlet valves. It can build up sufficiently to restrict       >> air flow into the engine - which is what I presume your engine is doing.       >>> He plans on cleaning using WD40 and a brush.       >> Won't work. The carbon gets baked on rock hard and is damnably difficult       >> to shift. Look up *seafoam* which can be used to clean the carbon on the       >> backs of the valves. Note, if seafoam is added to the fuel tank, it will       >> *not* prevent the backs of the intake valves from carbon build up since       >> the fuel is injected directly into the cylinders. It will only be able       >> to clean the combustion chambers and valve faces.       >>> Is this a common problem?       >> Yes, very common.       >>>       >>> Thanks.       >>>       >> Look up carbon build up on the backs of intake valves. You will likely       >> find plenty of info and even video clips on the issue.       >>       >> --       >>       >> Xeno       >>       >>       >> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.       >> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)       >       > Actually my mechanic was able to remove most of the carbon.              That means, since the oil isn't getting caked and baked on, you are       getting a *lot* of oil hitting the backs of the valves. As has been       suggested, get yourself a catch can arrangement.       >       > I will have this done every 50K so it never gets real bad.       >       > Shame on Mazda for using direct fuel injection. :-)              All in the name of *efficiency*, in particular fuel efficiency, and       Mazda are not alone. They can run in stratified charge mode at very lean       mixtures in cruise - up to 40:1 in some instances. The problem is - they       introduce a whole new raft of problems.              Wait until you see HCCI/CAI rolled out - that will be interesting.                     --              Xeno                     Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.        (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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