XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:53:35 +1100, "Jacob Jones"   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:38:21 +1100, The Real Bev    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 03/03/2022 12:59 PM, Jacob Jones wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 07:49:46 +1100, Bob F  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 3/3/2022 12:03 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:47:28 -0600, Paul in Houston   
   >>>>> TX  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> micky wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Is red-lining worse, better, or the same when the engine is driving   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> wheels as when the wheels are driving the engine?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I use the engine to slow down when going down hill, and today, for   
   >>>>>>> example, I put the ATransmission into 2nd and then engine went   
   >>>>>>> briefly   
   >>>>>>> to 5500, the apparent red line.   For several seconds was at 5000   
   >>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>> even longer at 4500.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I did that exiting the freeway in my last Toyota.   
   >>>>>> It sucked a valve into the combustion chamber and broke a piston rod   
   >>>>>> destroying the engine.  I gave it away to a needy person who   
   >>>>>> installed   
   >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>> used engine and ended up with a nice car.   
   >>>>>  So you're suggesting I shouldn't do it?   
   >>>>>  Unless your freeway was going very steeply down hill, I would think   
   >>>>> you   
   >>>>> came close to the redline even less time than I have!!   
   >>>>>  This is a 2021 or 2022 Citroen C-3.  A rental with only 9000 miles on   
   >>>>> it, so it must be new.   I think I bought the insurance, but   
   >>>>> regardless,   
   >>>>> I don't want to hurt the car.    mAYBE I shouldnt go lower than 3rd   
   >>>>> gear   
   >>>>> and rely on the brakes for anything more.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A motorcycle shop owner heard me downshift to slow as I approached his   
   >>>> lot, and immediately told me that breaks were a lot cheaper to replace   
   >>>> than engine and clutch.   
   >>>   
   >>> Rather a silly comment if you end up crashing because the brakes   
   >>> overheat   
   >>> and you can't stop.   
   >>   
   >> If that's happening you DESERVE to crash.   
   >>   
   >> Only once -- the very first time I drove down a mountain road -- did my   
   >> brakes get too hot to stop as quickly as I wanted.  Lesson learned.   
      
   I've heard that disk brakes don't overheat, and I think this Citroen has   
   4-wheel disks.   
   >   
   >Which is presumably why micky changed down.   
      
   No, it was so that I'd use mostly the engine and use the brakes much   
   less and have them in reserve if... if a child ran out in front of the   
   car, for example, or a car pulled in front of me, or whatever.   
      
   I had used the brakes so little at that point there was chance of   
   overheating even drum brakes.   
      
   > All he needs to do   
   >is chang down earlier, before the steep drop, so it doesn't red line.   
      
   That would have been next to impossible.   Thhe hills show up quickly   
   and unexpectedly.   
      
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