XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: jkj33@gmail.com   
      
   On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 10:13:36 +1100, micky  wrote:   
      
   > In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:53:35 +1100, "Jacob Jones"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:38:21 +1100, The Real Bev    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 03/03/2022 12:59 PM, Jacob Jones wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 07:49:46 +1100, Bob F  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 3/3/2022 12:03 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:47:28 -0600, Paul in   
   >>>>>> Houston   
   >>>>>> TX  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> micky wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Is red-lining worse, better, or the same when the engine is   
   >>>>>>>> driving   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> wheels as when the wheels are driving the engine?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I use the engine to slow down when going down hill, and today, for   
   >>>>>>>> example, I put the ATransmission into 2nd and then engine went   
   >>>>>>>> briefly   
   >>>>>>>> to 5500, the apparent red line.   For several seconds was at 5000   
   >>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>> even longer at 4500.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I did that exiting the freeway in my last Toyota.   
   >>>>>>> It sucked a valve into the combustion chamber and broke a piston   
   >>>>>>> rod   
   >>>>>>> destroying the engine.  I gave it away to a needy person who   
   >>>>>>> installed   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> used engine and ended up with a nice car.   
   >>>>>>  So you're suggesting I shouldn't do it?   
   >>>>>>  Unless your freeway was going very steeply down hill, I would think   
   >>>>>> you   
   >>>>>> came close to the redline even less time than I have!!   
   >>>>>>  This is a 2021 or 2022 Citroen C-3.  A rental with only 9000 miles   
   >>>>>> on   
   >>>>>> it, so it must be new.   I think I bought the insurance, but   
   >>>>>> regardless,   
   >>>>>> I don't want to hurt the car.    mAYBE I shouldnt go lower than 3rd   
   >>>>>> gear   
   >>>>>> and rely on the brakes for anything more.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> A motorcycle shop owner heard me downshift to slow as I approached   
   >>>>> his   
   >>>>> lot, and immediately told me that breaks were a lot cheaper to   
   >>>>> replace   
   >>>>> than engine and clutch.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Rather a silly comment if you end up crashing because the brakes   
   >>>> overheat   
   >>>> and you can't stop.   
   >>>   
   >>> If that's happening you DESERVE to crash.   
   >>>   
   >>> Only once -- the very first time I drove down a mountain road -- did my   
   >>> brakes get too hot to stop as quickly as I wanted.  Lesson learned.   
   >   
   > I've heard that disk brakes don't overheat,   
      
   Thats wrong.   
      
   > and I think this Citroen has 4-wheel disks.   
      
   Yes it does.   
      
   >> Which is presumably why micky changed down.   
      
   > No, it was so that I'd use mostly the engine and use the brakes much   
   > less and have them in reserve if... if a child ran out in front of the   
   > car, for example, or a car pulled in front of me, or whatever.   
      
   That's what I meant. And with a car you are not familiar with   
   it makes sense to play safe.   
      
   > I had used the brakes so little at that point there was chance of   
   > overheating even drum brakes.   
   >   
   >> All he needs to do   
   >> is chang down earlier, before the steep drop, so it doesn't red line.   
   >   
   > That would have been next to impossible.   
      
   No it isn't.   
      
   > Thhe hills show up quickly and unexpectedly.   
      
   You ALWAYS come over the crest and can see what is in front of you.   
      
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