XPost: alt.home.repair
From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au
On 4/3/2022 10:13 am, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:53:35 +1100, "Jacob Jones"
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:38:21 +1100, The Real Bev
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/03/2022 12:59 PM, Jacob Jones wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 07:49:46 +1100, Bob F wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/3/2022 12:03 PM, micky wrote:
>>>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:47:28 -0600, Paul in Houston
>>>>>> TX wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> micky wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is red-lining worse, better, or the same when the engine is driving
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> wheels as when the wheels are driving the engine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use the engine to slow down when going down hill, and today, for
>>>>>>>> example, I put the ATransmission into 2nd and then engine went
>>>>>>>> briefly
>>>>>>>> to 5500, the apparent red line. For several seconds was at 5000
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> even longer at 4500.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did that exiting the freeway in my last Toyota.
>>>>>>> It sucked a valve into the combustion chamber and broke a piston rod
>>>>>>> destroying the engine. I gave it away to a needy person who
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> used engine and ended up with a nice car.
>>>>>> So you're suggesting I shouldn't do it?
>>>>>> Unless your freeway was going very steeply down hill, I would think
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> came close to the redline even less time than I have!!
>>>>>> This is a 2021 or 2022 Citroen C-3. A rental with only 9000 miles on
>>>>>> it, so it must be new. I think I bought the insurance, but
>>>>>> regardless,
>>>>>> I don't want to hurt the car. mAYBE I shouldnt go lower than 3rd
>>>>>> gear
>>>>>> and rely on the brakes for anything more.
>>>>>
>>>>> A motorcycle shop owner heard me downshift to slow as I approached his
>>>>> lot, and immediately told me that breaks were a lot cheaper to replace
>>>>> than engine and clutch.
>>>>
>>>> Rather a silly comment if you end up crashing because the brakes
>>>> overheat
>>>> and you can't stop.
>>>
>>> If that's happening you DESERVE to crash.
>>>
>>> Only once -- the very first time I drove down a mountain road -- did my
>>> brakes get too hot to stop as quickly as I wanted. Lesson learned.
>
> I've heard that disk brakes don't overheat, and I think this Citroen has
> 4-wheel disks.
*All* brakes are energy converters hence all brakes can potentially
overheat. Brakes, of any type, can only shed heat at a set rate. Exceed
the rate of heat input that the brakes can accommodate and you will
overheat any kind of brake system.
>>
>> Which is presumably why micky changed down.
>
> No, it was so that I'd use mostly the engine and use the brakes much
> less and have them in reserve if... if a child ran out in front of the
> car, for example, or a car pulled in front of me, or whatever.
Change your driving habits!
>
> I had used the brakes so little at that point there was chance of
> overheating even drum brakes.
I repeat, change your driving habits.
>
>> All he needs to do
>> is chang down earlier, before the steep drop, so it doesn't red line.
>
> That would have been next to impossible. Thhe hills show up quickly
> and unexpectedly.
Once again, change your driving habits. Better still, go take a
defensive driving course. Not for your benefit but the benefit of others
around you.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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