XPost: alt.home.repair
From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:26:57 +1100, Xeno
wrote:
>On 4/3/2022 10:13 am, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:53:35 +1100, "Jacob Jones"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:38:21 +1100, The Real Bev
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2022 12:59 PM, Jacob Jones wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 07:49:46 +1100, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/2022 12:03 PM, micky wrote:
>>>>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:47:28 -0600, Paul in Houston
>>>>>>> TX wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> micky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is red-lining worse, better, or the same when the engine is driving
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> wheels as when the wheels are driving the engine?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I use the engine to slow down when going down hill, and today, for
>>>>>>>>> example, I put the ATransmission into 2nd and then engine went
>>>>>>>>> briefly
>>>>>>>>> to 5500, the apparent red line. For several seconds was at 5000
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> even longer at 4500.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did that exiting the freeway in my last Toyota.
>>>>>>>> It sucked a valve into the combustion chamber and broke a piston rod
>>>>>>>> destroying the engine. I gave it away to a needy person who
>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> used engine and ended up with a nice car.
>>>>>>> So you're suggesting I shouldn't do it?
>>>>>>> Unless your freeway was going very steeply down hill, I would think
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> came close to the redline even less time than I have!!
>>>>>>> This is a 2021 or 2022 Citroen C-3. A rental with only 9000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, so it must be new. I think I bought the insurance, but
>>>>>>> regardless,
>>>>>>> I don't want to hurt the car. mAYBE I shouldnt go lower than 3rd
>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>> and rely on the brakes for anything more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A motorcycle shop owner heard me downshift to slow as I approached his
>>>>>> lot, and immediately told me that breaks were a lot cheaper to replace
>>>>>> than engine and clutch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather a silly comment if you end up crashing because the brakes
>>>>> overheat
>>>>> and you can't stop.
>>>>
>>>> If that's happening you DESERVE to crash.
>>>>
>>>> Only once -- the very first time I drove down a mountain road -- did my
>>>> brakes get too hot to stop as quickly as I wanted. Lesson learned.
>>
>> I've heard that disk brakes don't overheat, and I think this Citroen has
>> 4-wheel disks.
>
>*All* brakes are energy converters hence all brakes can potentially
>overheat. Brakes, of any type, can only shed heat at a set rate. Exceed
>the rate of heat input that the brakes can accommodate and you will
>overheat any kind of brake system.
>>>
>>> Which is presumably why micky changed down.
>>
>> No, it was so that I'd use mostly the engine and use the brakes much
>> less and have them in reserve if... if a child ran out in front of the
>> car, for example, or a car pulled in front of me, or whatever.
>
>Change your driving habits!
>>
>> I had used the brakes so little at that point there was chance of
>> overheating even drum brakes.
>
>I repeat, change your driving habits.
>>
>>> All he needs to do
>>> is chang down earlier, before the steep drop, so it doesn't red line.
>>
>> That would have been next to impossible. Thhe hills show up quickly
>> and unexpectedly.
>
>Once again, change your driving habits. Better still, go take a
>defensive driving course. Not for your benefit but the benefit of others
>around you.
You and Jacob can come with me the next time I make this trip, maybe in
a few days, and then you'll have enough facts to maybe be in a position
to tell me stuff like this.
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