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   Alan to Xeno   
   Re: "Google Wallet may be making a retur   
   30 Apr 22 18:40:22   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2022-04-30 6:27 p.m., Xeno wrote:   
   > On 1/5/2022 8:33 am, WaltS48 wrote:   
   >> On 4/30/2022 11:12 PM, Xeno wrote:   
   >>>> More to the point, only people with abnormally low IQ fall for   
   >>>> paying extra   
   >>>> for air that has a visible green cap but which has no practical value.   
   >>>   
   >>> For what its worth, using nitrogen in tyres is just another way to   
   >>> suck people into a *regular subscription payment* when they top up   
   >>> their tyres.   
   >>   
   >> It doesn't help the tires but it helps the tire provider's bottom   
   >> line, or   
   >> they wouldn't bother to do it.   
   >>   
   >> BTW, what did you think about the claim from somebody that steep twisty   
   >> mountain driving doesn't wear tires any more than driving on flat roads   
   >> does?   
   >   
   > The camber gain from KPI/SAI will always wear tyres more on the outside   
   > edge during high or full lock turns.   
      
   Quantify that gain...   
      
   ...or admit you don't know what you're talking about.   
      
   > Mountain driving, with sharp   
   > hairpin bends, will guarantee it. Even in normal city street driving,   
   > camber gain will be prevalent and worse on the nearside tyre. If you   
   > have a comprehensive understanding of steering and suspension design,   
   > then it is quite an easy thing to visualise. Weber Auto, on You Tube,   
   > did something on steering some time back and, IIRC, they explained the   
   > aspect of KPI/SAI that causes the issue. It is not a well understood   
   > issue, even in the trade, but is *one* of the reasons tyre rotation is   
   > essential. Just turn your steering to full lock and look at the camber   
   > angle of the *inside* wheel - camber gain will be very evident. The   
   > effect is worse if the vehicle has wider low profile tyres.   
      
   Load matters too, sunshine.   
      
   And you have it backwards.   
      
   King pin inclination will reduce positive camber.   
      
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