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   sms to Xeno   
   Re: Real information on brakes (was Re:    
   08 May 22 23:38:14   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: scharf.steven@geemail.com   
      
   On 5/8/2022 5:10 PM, Xeno wrote:   
   > On 9/5/2022 1:46 am, Andy Burnelli wrote:   
   >> Andy Burnelli wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Intuition is a terrible thing.   
   >>   
   >> Don't even get me started on the "cellphones cause accidents"   
   >> intuition, by   
   >> the way, as monkeys intuit all sorts of stuff that doesn't show up in   
   >> independent statistics outside {police,insurance,law} politics.   
   >>   
   >> If someone wants to claim "cellphones cause accidents", I only ask   
   >> them for   
   >> one fact, which they never can produce... and which is the only fact that   
   >> matters.   
   >>   
   >> Marketing and politics takes advantage of people's emotions & intuition.   
   >   
   > Distracted drivers using cellphones cause accidents.   
      
   Andy Burnelli/Arlen Holder/Dean Hoffman/Nil/Robin Goodfellow/more is   
   wrong of courseā„¢.   
      
   According to the the NHTSA, for 2019 in the U.S.:   
      
   Total fatal crashes: 33,244   
   Total fatalities in fatal crashes: 36,096   
   Fatal crashes caused by distracted driving: 2,895 (9%)   
   Total fatalities in fatal crashes caused by distracted driving: 3,142 (9%)   
   Number of cellphone distraction-affected fatal crashes: 387 (13%)   
   Number of cellphone distraction-affected fatalities: 422 (13%)   
      
   So about 87% of distracted driving crashed and fatalities were caused by   
   factors other than cell phones.   
      
   So about 1.2% of fatal crashes (9% x 13%) were caused by drivers   
   distracted by cell phones.   
      
   The NHTSA mentions other distractions that make up the 87%, "eating and   
   drinking, talking to people in your vehicle, fiddling with the stereo,   
   entertainment or navigation system."   
      
      
      
   Using a phone while driving is a distraction even when it's being used   
   hands-free.   
      
   Not sure how to address the other 87% of distracted driving fatalities,   
   or even the portion of the 13% caused by cell phone use since even   
   hands-free doesn't solve the distracted driving problem. Texting while   
   driving could be addressed via technology but it would have to   
   distinguish between drivers and passengers. In the two vehicles we have   
   owned with built in navigation systems, you can't enter addresses when   
   the vehicle is moving, which is a real pain when a passenger could be   
   the one using the system. There were workarounds but they were beyond   
   the capability of most owners.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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