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   Alan to Andy Burnelli   
   Re: Real information on brakes (was Re:    
   11 May 22 17:27:16   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2022-05-11 5:21 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:   
   > sms wrote:   
   >   
   >> Decades ago I replace the brake pads on a VW Rabbit (Golf in other   
   >> regions) with pads that I ordered online from JC Whitney, a mail-order   
   >> parts house. Descending a steep hill, in San Francisco, the pads   
   >> glazed over from the heat. The rotors were fine. Did another brake job   
   >> immediately, using high-quality pads from an import car parts store.   
   >   
   > High quality?   
   > How did you know?   
   > By the advertising?   
   >   
   > HINT: What's the cold/hot friction rating (coefficient) of those pads?   
   > DOUBLEHINT: It's printed on every passenger vehicle pad sold in the USA.   
      
   TRIPLEHINT: The cold/hot friction rating is not all that matters.   
      
   >   
   >> Unfortunately, in the U.S., not a lot of vehicle owners still do their   
   >> own car maintenance so the number of auto parts stores is greatly   
   >> reduced.   
   >   
   > Is that true?   
      
   Probably, yes.   
      
   Vehicles have become far more complex.   
      
   I can do my own brake pads if I care to, and I do do so for my 1998 Van   
   Diemen RF98-2 Formula F.   
      
   >   
   > Do people do less of their maintenance now that it's easier than ever   
   > before to do typical maintenance on a car for a whole bunch of reasons:   
   > a. Cars require less maintenance nowadays (e.g., no points)   
   > b. Videos abound on YouTube for how to do all sorts of maintenance   
   > c. Cars are simpler now than they have ever been (IMHO)   
   > d. The Internet makes finding & buying the correct parts super easy   
   > etc.   
   >   
   > Were auto parts stores more prevalent in the past than they are now?   
      
   Easily, yes.   
      
   >   
   >> In my town of 60,000 people we've lost all three of our auto parts   
   >> stores as well as a fourth that's just across the city boundary. I now   
   >> buy my oil at Costco or Walmart and I order my oil filters from a   
   >> dealer that sells OEM parts on eBay.   
   >   
   > Maybe that (and Internet shopping) is why you lost your auto parts stores?   
   > Why do you think that loss is only due to a presumed lack of home DIY?   
   >   
   >> Two of our vehicles are hybrids and because of regenerative braking   
   >> the brakes last a very long time, easily more than 100K miles. On my   
   >> old VWs I had to do brake jobs every 25K-30K miles.   
   >   
   > I still have a RWD vehicle with drum brakes, whose shoes lasted, oh, about   
   > 180K miles (and which were still meaty when I replaced them), and, let's be   
   > clear, I live on the top of a mountain which is clearly tough on them.   
      
   Let's be clearer:   
      
   You talk bullshit on a regular basis.   
      
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