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   Andy Burnelli wrote:   
      
   > If Amuzi is correct that warp (aka "thermal distortion") happens at a lower   
   > temperature than a thousand degrees for ten hours, then I'm all ears.   
   >   
   > Give me a fact, and I'll read it.   
   > Does anyone have any reliable cites that back up their belief system?   
      
   I realized belatedly that I didn't point out that the temperature it takes   
   to "soften" rotors only has to be "locally" applied for what Amuzi is   
   hypothesizing to occur, to occur.   
      
   So, for example, you can perhaps get to the 2300 degrees it takes to begin   
   softening rotors locally, but bear in mind rotors are _designed_ to cool   
   off, so it's not going to be easily done, if it's even possible to be done.   
      
   I get it that almost everyone trusts their intuition more than they will   
   ever trust in facts, where I repeat I know Quantum Mechanics, where   
   _nothing_ is intuitive. Trust me on that.   
      
   We humans own the intuition of monkeys.   
   That serves us well sometimes - but it serves us poorly most of the time.   
      
   The reason it serves us poorly is that, sure, it "sounds good" that rotors   
   would warp, especially when most of the time replacing or machining the   
   rotors "solves" the warp, so, to most morons, it's intuitive it warped.   
      
   But the facts remain that you need an astoundingly huge temperature,   
   whether applied locally or not, to force a rotor to deform like that.   
      
   The brake system can't handle that temperature.   
      
   There are a few reasons for that, one of which is it never happens, but the   
   more important reason is that the system is _designed_ to cool itself off.   
      
   What I'm fighting here is the fact I'm not used to dealing with the hoi   
   polloi who believe in a 20 second YouTube video of basically nothing,   
   without even _reading_ the dozen or so reliable reference links I cited.   
      
   I'm not saying Amuzi is wrong, by the way - since his premise is valid that   
   locally, the deformation temperature point might be reached in a typical   
   braking system under duress...   
      
   But what we need now is _science_ backing up his supposition.   
   If you post it, I'll read it.   
      
   More to the point, as with Vic Smith's reference, if I read it, I'll at   
   least grasp what it says (using basic adult cognitive skills God gave me).   
   --   
   That's what separates me from the morons.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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