home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   rec.autos.tech      Technical aspects of automobiles, et. al      117,728 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 116,834 of 117,728   
   Lewis to Xeno   
   Re: Empiricism trumps Arlen's idiocy (wa   
   16 May 22 14:19:29   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me   
      
   In message  Xeno    
   wrote:   
   > I gave you the one I value most, my direct experience.   
      
   No matter who you are, "my own experiences" is not a reference, much   
   less a reliable one.   
      
   A reference is something published and accepted by others, preferably   
   through an editorial process that includes exports in the field. It is   
   not some guy saying "this is my experience" even though that might be   
   useful in some cases.   
      
   About the only exception to this is pure math where you can demonstrate   
   a proof, and even there when you apply those numbers to real-world   
   problems you may still be doing it wrong.   
      
   Here's an example that might relate to you and help you understand.   
      
   In the US, there was a problem with aluminum electrical wiring in homes,   
   and the use of aluminum wiring in new construction is banned because it   
   is too easy for it to cause house fires.   
      
   Now, some people will decide that "ZOMG! This house has electrical   
   wiring that is aluminum, I have to rewrite the house before it   
   explodes!"   
      
   An experienced electrician will tell you that, yes, you should probably   
   rewire because it isn't safe.   
      
   The same electrician will go home to his/her house with aluminum wiring   
   and will not lose a second of sleep.   
      
   Why? Because the electrician knows from experience that aluminum wiring   
   is only an issue if incompetent nincompoops (like home owners) fuck with   
   it and don't know what they are doing.   
      
   But no electrician is going to cite their personal experience with   
   aluminum wiring, or point out that there are plenty of ~70 year old   
   houses with aluminum wiring still out there not catching on fire,   
   because personal knowledge and experience is not a reference.   
      
   If you want to argue about something, you need to be able to provide   
   actual references.   
      
   All of that said, in this case you are wallowing in mud with a   
   shit-covered pig on his home turf, all that will happen here is that you   
   are going to smell like a pig covered in shit and the pig you are arguing   
   with is going to be very happy. VERY happy.   
      
   Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little   
   chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for   
   the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his   
   life? Please, think of that image first.   
      
   --   
   'In the Fyres of Struggle let us bake New Men, who Will Notte heed   
   	the old Lies.'   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca