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   Message 116,841 of 117,728   
   Andy Burnelli to Xeno   
   Re: Empiricism trumps Arlen's idiocy (wa   
   16 May 22 18:03:00   
   
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   Xeno wrote:   
      
   >> But the facts remain that you need an astoundingly huge temperature,   
   >> whether applied locally or not, to force a rotor to deform like that.   
   >   
   > Rotors never heat *uniformly*. In fact, it is the outer periphery that   
   > will heat the most and it is the outer periphery that will begin to   
   > deform first.   
      
   I'm willing to listen to and read and watch "good science"; but I must   
   first let you know that I'm allergic to people trying to bullshit me.   
      
   I'm all about good science, where I appreciated that Vic Smith brought up   
   that engineering test article which shows there "can" be deformation; but   
   unfortunately, that deformation came after ten hours at a thousand degrees.   
      
   A car brake system would be mush after ten hours at a thousand degrees.   
      
   If you can find even a _single_ reliable expert in the field who can back   
   up your belief system, post the reference and I'll read it. But please stop   
   it with the 20 second videos from a 12 year old.   
      
   If you can't find even a _single_ reliable reference from experts in the   
   field, then that alone should tell you what you won't believe from me about   
   your strongly held belief system.   
      
   I recognize that people hold onto belief systems that have absolutely no   
   basis (otherwise, religion wouldn't exist, for example), but if you're   
   going to try to discuss rotor warp, and yet, if you're going to ignore a   
   dozen reliable cites, then at least provide a reliable cite of your own.   
      
   What Amuzi said is certainly an interesting hypothesis... what we need to   
   explore it further is good solid references that back up his hypothesis.   
      
   Does _anyone_ out there have a _single_ reliable cite to back up the   
   hypothesis that Amuzi proposed to explain how rotors can commonly "warp"   
   when the temperature that is required would make the rest of the braking   
   system boil & seals would disintegrate before rotors could get to even one   
   quarter of the required temperature.   
      
   In summary, if you don't believe the dozen references I provided, then   
   you're not going to believe a thousand more from me; so it's up to _you_ to   
   provide a reliable reference.   
   --   
   And no, a 20 second video from a 12 year old isn't reliable science.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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