From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au   
      
   On 17/5/2022 12:19 am, Lewis wrote:   
   > In message Xeno wrote:   
   >> I gave you the one I value most, my direct experience.   
   >   
   > No matter who you are, "my own experiences" is not a reference, much   
   > less a reliable one.   
      
   Indeed but Arlen says warped rotors don't exist, I say they do because I   
   have seen them, I have measured them, I have machined them. There are   
   video references showing *warped rotors* so they do exist.   
   >   
   > A reference is something published and accepted by others, preferably   
   > through an editorial process that includes exports in the field. It is   
   > not some guy saying "this is my experience" even though that might be   
   > useful in some cases.   
   >   
   > About the only exception to this is pure math where you can demonstrate   
   > a proof, and even there when you apply those numbers to real-world   
   > problems you may still be doing it wrong.   
      
   The maths involved is above my pay grade. ;-)   
   >   
   > Here's an example that might relate to you and help you understand.   
   >   
   > In the US, there was a problem with aluminum electrical wiring in homes,   
   > and the use of aluminum wiring in new construction is banned because it   
   > is too easy for it to cause house fires.   
   >   
   > Now, some people will decide that "ZOMG! This house has electrical   
   > wiring that is aluminum, I have to rewrite the house before it   
   > explodes!"   
   >   
   > An experienced electrician will tell you that, yes, you should probably   
   > rewire because it isn't safe.   
   >   
   > The same electrician will go home to his/her house with aluminum wiring   
   > and will not lose a second of sleep.   
   >   
   > Why? Because the electrician knows from experience that aluminum wiring   
   > is only an issue if incompetent nincompoops (like home owners) fuck with   
   > it and don't know what they are doing.   
      
   I have seen the same incompetent nincompoops dick with vehicle wiring   
   that they simply do not understand. Had a friend show me a heated and   
   *melted* headlight socket and said it was caused by a *short*. Didn't   
   understand enough about electricity to see that a resistance causes a   
   voltage drop which, in turn, generates heat. What he was looking at was   
   the after effects of a bad connection in a relatively high current   
   environment.   
   >   
   > But no electrician is going to cite their personal experience with   
   > aluminum wiring, or point out that there are plenty of ~70 year old   
   > houses with aluminum wiring still out there not catching on fire,   
   > because personal knowledge and experience is not a reference.   
      
   No experience with aluminium wiring because, as far as I am aware, it   
   isn't legal in this country. I can imagine scenarios where incompetent   
   nincompoops can right royally screw something like that. I have a name   
   for people like that - Crayfish - the meat is in the tail, the shit in   
   the head!   
   >   
   > If you want to argue about something, you need to be able to provide   
   > actual references.   
   >   
   > All of that said, in this case you are wallowing in mud with a   
   > shit-covered pig on his home turf, all that will happen here is that you   
   > are going to smell like a pig covered in shit and the pig you are arguing   
   > with is going to be very happy. VERY happy.   
   >   
   > Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little   
   > chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for   
   > the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his   
   > life? Please, think of that image first.   
   >   
   It's a stark image you paint there! ;-)   
      
   --   
   Xeno   
      
      
   Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.   
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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