From: craftlover1024.152@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 2:19:01 PM UTC-5, C.R. Krieger wrote:   
   > "gudmundur"  wrote in message   
   > news:ut0na8o...@corp.supernews.com...   
   > >   
   > > How could you 'pour in' propane, which is a vapor at atmospheric pressure?   
   > Well, first, it's gotta be really *really* cold ...   
   > --   
   > C.R. Krieger   
   > "Don't argue with 'em, dear; they're beneath our dignity." - W.C. Fields   
   true but I keep seeing people talking about LPG (mostly coleman propane   
   bottles) instead of the ALSO COLEMAN "camp fuel" that comes in non-cylinder   
   more like classic boxy metal acetone/paint thinner cans   
   I wonder if people can still read anymore as this entire question is based on   
   two versions of LIQUID fuels that remain liquid until heated or evaporated   
   INTENTIONALLY   
   so obviously the OP got many nonsense replies about a third type of fuel that   
   does not match his/her question in any sense   
   I am glad the smarter people or at least experienced have given helpful and   
   fully valid answers to the OP   
   summery: while white gas by itself is not ideal for running a modern highly   
   integrated and optimized large ICE as it has no additives to aid in long-term   
   durability it can be used in emergencies or with smarter cars that offer   
   things like "flex fuel" as    
   those cars will adapt to natural deviations in whatever combustible crap you   
   pour into them   
   it also tends to not matter much in "dumber" small engines with four-stroke   
   designs as those tend to be balanced to match a class of fuels that white gas   
   is part of and I guess are also much less prone to buildup damage as they are   
   low-mass engines with    
   a defined self correcting loop in operation by physical variations in burn   
   temp and rotor speed   
   as for the propane in cars thing yes ANY LPG variant (including    
   ethane/butane/propane) can be used in gasoline type engines as long as it is   
   properly mixed using a gas-gas carburetor rather than the liquid-gas   
   carburetor of standard gasoline though some    
   mild complexity of replacing the liquid-only fuel injector system with a   
   dual-state injector means older "dumb" engines do best with a simple carb.   
   swap as they will tend to vary the idle and speed/temp parameters to maintain   
   optimal burn rate and power    
   level if only peaking at 50-80% of the original power if you ran on the   
   designed liquid fuel   
   I would be planning for a lot of "dual fuel" type small engines soon as   
   gasoline is always gonna be harder to synthesize than LPG types and the supply   
   is still only going down   
   I might even get a "car" meant to take an internal "grill tank" in the cabin   
   to run as my "range extender" in a primarily solar EV with only the range   
   extender popping out the car to vent the CO from use   
   since the sun is gonna outlast all of us and when it dies we will die as a   
   species and otherwise there are simple processes that can go from grass waste   
   all the way to propane using only mildly expensive equipment like a cryo-pump   
   for separation of feed    
   gases and a few other common things for dealing with gas-gas reactions like   
   sealed compressors and drying catalysts and the main show of a corona   
   discharge gas cracking reactor which is just an O2 free ozone generator that   
   cracks some of the feed into    
   the product and rejected hydrogen and that being all under 170psi(the peak for   
   propane storage at room temp) is well within the layman to build and make some   
   tiny cash selling to the grillmasters and campers around the usa   
      
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