XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: bashley101@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/10/22 7:10 PM, gtr wrote:   
   > On 2022-12-10 15:07:04 +0000, The Real Bev said:   
   >   
   >>> Making your own soda is WAAAAAYYYY cheaper than buying it in bottles.   
   >>   
   >> Perhaps if you buy name-brand stuff when it's not on sale...   
   >   
   > At twenty dollars for five pounds of carbon dioxide, my math works out to   
   > about 10 cents per liter of carbonated water, assuming NRE is ignored.   
   >   
   > Since I already have that carbon dioxide tank, and since replacing it with   
   > a new tank is free every five years, the only cost now to me is the gas.   
   >   
   > The sodastream canisters are 410 grams of CO2, and they say they fill 60   
   > liters but it's more like 45 liters by almost all accounts on the net.   
   >   
   > Using easy math, that works out to about 10 grams of carbon dioxide per   
   > liter of carbonated water.   
   >   
   > At about twenty dollars for about 2,250 grams of liquid CO2 (five pounds),   
   > that works out to 225 liters of carbonated water for about twenty dollars.   
      
   I regard carbonated water as a negative.  I'm willing to drink some   
   brands of root bear that don't have much carbonation, but it would be   
   way better flat.  I assume that people want some sort of flavored   
   carbonated beverage (like Coke or Pepsi) rather than just plain bubbly   
   water, which I find disgusting -- but not as bad as tonic water.  I'm   
   apparently in a minority.   
      
   Hubby was a Pepsi addict for decades.  Then Coke.  Then Shasta. All   
   sugar-free diet colas.  He finally broke the habit.   
      
   > Keeping to easy math, that's about 10 cents per liter of carbonated water.   
   > Where do you live that you buy a liter of carbonated water for < 10 cents?   
      
   I've never priced the stuff.   
      
   >>> Leaks can be easily prevented.   
   >>>   
   >>> The people that fill the container are the same ones that provide it to   
   >>> every restaurant and tavern you have been to.   
   >>   
   >> REI?  They were the only people around here who could do it.  NOTHING   
   >> they sell is cheap.   
   >   
   > Who mentioned REI?   
   > Nice stuff. But expensive.   
      
   I did, because they're the only people I found within a reasonable   
   distance  who would sell CO2 in small quantities.   
      
   > I do very much love walking around REI though.   
   > It makes me WANT to camp!   
      
   I did find a bargain there:  those plastic buckle-like things with   
   springy ears.  I also got REI ski gloves at a yard sale maybe 5 years ago.   
      
   Have you by any chance seen 'A Walk In The Woods' with Redford?  He goes   
   to an REI.  His reaction to the prices is exactly right.  A fine movie.   
      
   >>> My CO2 supplier is a welding shop, and their biggest buyers of CO2 are   
   >>> for beverage production or serving.   
   >>   
   >> Just buying the flavor-things and the CO2 costs more than real soda,   
   >> plus the gas for the special trip you have to make to the CO2-supplier.   
   >   
   > For flavoring, the only thing I add is a tiny amount of "Calm" which is a   
   > magnesium citrate that gives the carbonated water a lemony type of flavor.   
      
   That would make a significant difference.  I suspect that the   
   Walmart-equivalent of Crystal Light powder would do as well and gives   
   you additional flavor choices.   
      
   > I don't know what the commercial flavors cost, but I'll bet it's a lot.   
   > Here is a $135 bundle, for example, as my first result on a search.   
   > https://www.amazon.com/SodaStream-Sparkling-sodastream-Origina   
   -Variety/dp/B09C7ZDBRJ/   
   >   
   > I don't remember what the magnesium citrate "Calm" powder costs, but one   
   > large tub lasts a few years so I think that cost is in the noise level.   
      
   Isn't that a laxative? ... Yeah, I remember taking it before a   
   colonoscopy.  Ew.   
      
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