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|    Peter to All    |
|    Re: Can somone explain WHY positive firs    |
|    18 Jan 23 16:09:37    |
      XPost: alt.home.repair, sci.electronics.repair       From: occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk              Mighty✅ Wannabe✅ <@.> wrote:       > You can make do with rain water or tap water to top up the lead-acid       > battery but doing it too often will accumulate too much impurities in       > the battery fluid.              I say from the start that I'm only "reasoning" this out, purely       theoretically, so while I'm sure adding tap water with high calcium       carbonates will add "some" impurities.              Your use of "too much" is what bothers me, only because I've never seen a       single reliable source that tested this for the five year life of a       battery.              I'm sure someone tested it - but I've never seen those tests, where my       assumption, without those tests, is sure, "something" will be added, but       will it make any difference in a twenty-five pound battery designed to last       only five years?              > You can make do with distilled water but that is not as good as       > deionized water, which technically should be processed from distilled water.              Again I'm only reasoning this out, and I would back off on my rationale the       instant someone shows me batteries being harmed by rain water, which is       distilled water nowadays, despite the "acid rain" scare tactics of some.              The Indian "Microsoft support techs" tried to pull the same scare tactics       on me that the pool stores do, where they take a single tiny event and turn       it into the explosion of the Maine in Havana's harbor.              > A responsible auto shop or car dealership should use deionized water to       > dilute the sulfuric acid to use as battery fluid.              A commercial outfit will always follow industry standards if they're       reputable (most are not, in my humble opinion - most are scammers).              That's why you never believe anything coming out of the mouth of someone       selling you a service without checking it (for example, they'll tell you       that you "need" a fluid change when the owners manual will disagree).              They're all scheisters in my book - and I've been sheisted by them so I       know this for a fact that some are sheisters who can't be trusted.              Back to this topic, how do you know that the "pure" water isn't leaching       out all the good paste on the plates, now that it's devoid of ions?              I'm not asking this as a challenge - as the basic logic is sound.              What I'm looking for is a real answer to the practical question of how much       could it possibly matter in a twenty-five pound battery designed for a       short life in what turns out to be miserably inhospitable temperature &       vibration conditions, not to mention discharge recharge redox cycles.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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