XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Apr 2023 16:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Maxmillian   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 06:33:25 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:   
   >   
   >> I suggest looking for a local small shop on the cheaper side of town that   
   does   
   >> tires.  I think you're more likely to have them be willing to do a repair   
   versus the   
   >> large chain shops, etc. that are going to be overly cautious and wanting to   
   sell   
   >> new tires.   
      
   Yes, indeed.  The used tire store I wrote about earlier is in the center   
   city,   Also, when an exhaust pipe broke at a joint in front of the   
   muffler and I went to a suburban muffler shop, all he was willing to do   
   was replace most of the system.   I headed for downtown and found a   
   pretty big, nice looking garage and he welded the two pipes back   
   together.  Let me watch, did a very good job, one full bead and then   
   another on top of it. It lasted as long as I had the car.   
   >   
   >What I mostly hated was all the waiting, and driving, and traffic, and   
   >disappointment being told in the end that they mainly wanted to sell new   
   >tires. Worse, they didn't have the same tread pattern but that didn't   
   >bother them. I don't know if it matters but I know it "could" matter   
   >sometimes if the tread pattern makes a difference (which you won't know   
   >until it's too late).   
      
   In theory the treads should match but on a dry road if you're not doing   
   doughnuts or wheelies, I don't think it's worth worrying about.   When I   
   did buy two front tires, the used store had matching tires, but if he   
   hadn't, that would have been okay too.   
   >   
   >If I had the tire press, I would just do it my self and take the risk of my   
   >efforts, which is why I'm asking here on a repair & automotive tech group.   
      
   See another of my posts about that.   
      
   >> I haven't had a lot of tires that had problems over the years, but I'd   
   >> guess that it was about 25% could not be plugged, 75% could.  It also   
   depends on   
   >> what you're going to use the tire for.  If it's going to be the spare, only   
   get used   
   >> temporarily or never, I would be less concerned about the repair.  All the   
   ones   
   >> that I plugged lasted the life of the tire.   
   >   
   >Thank you for answering the question as faithfully as you could.   
   >Nobody else even tried to answer the question before saying what they'd do.   
      
   I didn't know we had to answer in a particular order.   
   >   
   >It seems reasonable that 1/4 of the tires that are flat "shouldn't" be   
   >repaired if people follow the rules rigidly (which tires shops will do).   
   >   
   >For one, I would think most tires are "driven on" for some distance after   
   >they're flat, either because it's a slow leak or the driver needs to get   
   >off the road to a safe place before changing over to the spare tire.   
   >   
   >It would be good to know how long a flat tire can be driven on before it's   
   >ruined. Is it 100 feet? 1 mile? More? Less? I don't know. Any idea?   
      
   One time I was dressed up and about to go to a rally for a political   
   candidate I was working for.  And I got a flat and it was raining.   
   Instead of changing the tire in the rain, I drove about 1000 feet to a   
   garage and no doubt about it, I ruined the tire.   
      
      
   >Also we've all had nails/screws that are close to the edge, where I don't   
   >know exactly where 'too close' might be, but I'm sure a shop will be more   
   >conservative on that than I am for my own car (although for my wife & kids'   
   >cars, I'd tend to be more conservative than I am on my own vehicles).   
   >   
   >Along the same vein, glass and metal shards are problematic due to their   
   >shape, where the question would be at what point is the slice too big.   
   >   
   >There is also the case of multiple repairs in a tire, or a repair that is   
   >too close to a pre-existing repair, which tire shops must have rules on.   
   >   
   >And of course, there might be age-of-tire restrictions (anything over 3   
   >years, for example) or wear-bar restrictions or cracks in the sidewall.   
   >   
   >Given that a flat tire is already, by definition, a "used tire", I'm sure   
   >some of these factors can easily weight in on a portion of tires out there.   
   >   
   >If that portion is 1/4 of all the tires will fail, that sounds reasonable.   
      
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