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|    =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ to Michael    |
|    Re: What percentage of flat tires can be    |
|    01 May 23 12:01:45    |
      XPost: alt.home.repair       From: @.              On 5/1/2023 11:05 AM, Michael wrote:       > On 1 May 2023 04:51:26 GMT, rbowman wrote:       >       >>> Lift the lower bead into the drop center & lift the top bead to the rim.       >>> Fill with air until it pops. If necessary, grab the bazooka (1 out of       >>> 10).       >> And don't forget to add the $90 bazooka to your home tire changing       >> station. It's that 1 in 10 where you need a sledge hammer to break the       >> bead and a bazooka to seat it that turns it into a 5 hour pain in the ass.       > You got that right. I didn't know if people would realize what I meant by       > "grab the bazooka" but you clearly understood what it is, and what is for.       >       > Sometimes, it's just so much easier to have the right tools to do the job.       > You can get away with NOT having it, but then you need at least two people.       >       > You have one person underneath keeping the bottom bead in the drop center.       > Then you have another person on top wheedling the top bead into the rim.       > You must also have air running continuously screwed into the open valve.       >       > It CAN be done without the bazooka (or without the MAF kaboom trick), but       > it's EASIER to do with the bazooka on those problem tires if you're alone.       >       > It's the LT tires, with that high profile stiff sidewall that are the       > hardest to get the initial seal in the drop center that need the blast.       >       > If you already own some tools, then the cost will be lower, of course.       > For most people the "extra" tools will cost about $100 per tire ($400).       >       > HF sells everything you need though, which, using rounded numbers costs you       > $100 tire mounter (throw away its bead breaker which just gets in the way)       > $100 bead breaker (you have to extend it for the larger diameter wheels)       > $100 bazooka (if you work alone, you'll need it on some brands of tires)       > $100 static balancer (this tool works amazingly well even as it's low tech)       > $100 floor jack (you want it to go as high as you can but 15 inches is ok)       > $100 jack stands & chocks (height is usually more important than bearing)       > $200 compressor & hoses & fittings & electrical adapter (mine is 220VAC)       > $100 torque wrench (the only time it's needed is at the final cinch'up)       >       > There are minor tools but those are the three major tools that you'll need.       > Minor tools, offhand, are all around ten bucks so I'll just say that below.       >       > $10 schrader valve removal screwdriver (required)       > $10 tire valve removal & replacement tool (more useful for rubber valves)       > $10 air gun (you sacrifice one air gun to screw onto the open tire valve)       > $20 two long additional tire irons (useful, but not always required)       > $10 strong spray bottle (don't use a Windex bottle which always breaks)       > $10 vise grips (required because the long tire iron twists in your hands)       > $20 pack of wheel weights of various sizes and types (stick on works ok)       > $20 plug and patch kit (best to get the combined patchplug type)       > $10 wheel weight on/off tool (optional - it just makes you feel better)       > $10 assorted curved picks (to remove rocks and glass from between treads)       > $10 assorted patch tools (scrapers, pizza wheels, chalk/grease markers)       > $20 set of four all metal tire valves (bolt in types are my favorite)       > $20 special tool for the BBS wheel covers in some fancy alloy wheels       >       > Let me know if I missed anything as that's just off the cuff from memory.       >       > Obviously there's a serious (about $400) investment in tools that you don't       > already have and which aren't useful for any other job, while the rest of       > the investment will be useful for almost any job you do under the car.       >       > At easy numbers of $25 saved per wheel, it would take 16 tire changes       > (which would take a few years) to start making money on the tools bought.       >       > Almost nobody has only one car in the household, but if we assume easy       > conservative figures of a new set of tires every four years and no flats,       > that's about 16 years for one car. For a two-car household, that drops in       > half to 8 years. For a four car household (I don't feel like dividing by 3       > in my head) that should take about 4 years to start making money doing it.       >       > There are other advantages and disadvantages, such as the satisfaction of       > being self sufficient versus the dissatisfaction of having to take a       > shower, but there is no case anyone could make against cost as you will       > always end up making money on your tools given how much it costs to pay       > people.       >       > The main case people would have for not doing the job is they don't want to       > do it or they don't have the room for the tools, and those are both valid.                     You haven't factored in the medical cost if you lose an eye or a limb.       Industrial accidents do happen, more often to amateur auto mechanic.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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