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   RonTheGuy to Cindy Hamilton   
   Re: What percentage of flat tires can be   
   02 May 23 07:34:51   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: ron@null.invalid   
      
   On May 02, 2023, Cindy Hamilton wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   >> Oil is a commodity fluid, much like whole milk certainly is.   
   >> Which whole milk do you buy?   
   >   
   > The store brand at my grocery.  In addition to being the least   
   > expensive, it tastes the best.  Other brands (including the store   
   > brands at other grocery stores) sometimes have off flavor.   
      
   There's "quality" and there is "taste", which also don't always match.   
   You can have a high quality wine, for example, that you don't like.   
      
   Much like people's choices of handbags and shoes, there's quality and taste   
   too, but that's yet a different kind of taste which doesn't apply here.   
      
   With automotive fluids, taste isn't really the issue here, is it?   
      
   > No.  I said price and quality don't always go together.   
      
   Then we violently agree since price has nothing directly to do with quality   
   when it comes to the automotive parts and fluids we're speaking of.   
      
   Price is more of a function of the advertising budget of the brand, where   
   the discussion about Costco automotive fluids came into play recently.   
      
   > Sometimes the most expensive thing is optimal.  Sometimes the least   
   expensive thing   
   > is optimal.  In my experience, it's usually the one in the middle.   
      
   You just stepped into the same puddle you stepped into before, when I   
   opined that the people who know the least about a product equate the price   
   to the quality.   
      
   Why do you think marketing creates a "good" & a "better" and a "best" tier?   
   Think about it.   
      
   They made it for people like you who don't understand anything of what they   
   buy. They made it so that you'd make EXACTLY the decision you just made.   
      
   Since you don't understand what it is that you're buying, you buy by price.   
   But what you want is a "good deal", but you don't know what a good deal is.   
      
   So you don't buy the low ("must be crap!") or the high ("too expensive!").   
   You buy the safe middle ground.   
      
   That's why they put it there for you.   
      
   > You jumped to the conclusion that I always buy the most expensive thing.   
   > Hope you had a nice trip.   
      
   You fell into every marketing trap they laid out for you.   
   The reason is you're not buying anything by the quality but by the price.   
      
   If you know already, ahead of time, how to buy a car battery or a coolant,   
   or a windshield wiper fluid for that matter, then you look on the bottle to   
   see if it meets your specifications.   
      
   Once it meets your spec, then and only then do you bother looking at the   
   price, as if it doesn't meet your specs, it's worthless for your purpose.   
      
   > No, I think you're arrogant because you're arrogant.  You have an   
   > inflated opinion of your intelligence.   
      
   I said in another post moments ago the only things I know about buying   
   gasoline by quality is (a) aki, and (b) top tier, and (c) ethanol, and   
   then, in the next sentence I said I knew nothing else about how to choose   
   gasoline by quality and I asked for help in choosing gas by quality.   
      
   Same thing with motor oils where someone asked if the Kirkland oil was made   
   by Warren and I looked it up because I didn't know who made it and indeed   
   it was made by Warren but I also said that I choose the motor oil by (a)   
   API, and (b) SAE, and maybe sometimes (c) Dexos.   
      
   It's the same way I choose my car batteries and car tires, by the way,   
   which is by the specifications that are printed directly on the package.   
      
   For understanding the product, you call me arrogant?   
      
   >> People like you, who never know anything about what they're buying, always   
   >> deprecate others who do know what it is that they're buying.   
   >   
   > Ah, people like me.  I'm glad you know me so well.  Drop by sometime,   
   > and we'll have a cup of tea together.   
      
   What I know about you is you haven't mentioned a single quality metric.   
   Not even once.   
      
   Ron, the humblest guy in town.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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