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|    Re: One wire alternator question    |
|    10 May 23 20:33:46    |
      From: @.              On 5/10/2023 9:39 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:       > On 5/10/2023 12:55 AM, Xeno wrote:       >> On 10/5/2023 3:05 am, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:       >>> On 5/9/2023 10:39 AM, Xeno wrote:       >>>> On 9/5/2023 11:34 pm, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:       >>>>> On 5/8/2023 11:58 PM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:       >>>>>> 1948 Pontiac, 12V battery, one wire alternator (was working when       >>>>>> parked 12 years ago).       >>>>>> No amperage reading even at 2000 rpm. Battery voltage 12.6V.       >>>>>> Battery voltage with car running 13.8V, however amp meter only       >>>>>> reads 0 or negative with headlights on. Placed an after market       >>>>>> ammeter between the alternator and the battery. Same reading as       >>>>>> ammeter in the dash.       >>>>>> How could this be? Alternator supplies voltage but no current.       >>>>>> After idle for 12 years maybe residual magnetism is gone. Needs       >>>>>> to be excited. Can't find a YouTube that shows me which       >>>>>> terminals to zap.       >>>>>> All help is appreciated. I can certainly buy a new unit, but       >>>>>> possibly have other problems.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> Thank you       >>>>>       >>>>> If you get 13.8V when the car is running, that means the       >>>>> alternator is providing output.       >>>>>       >>>>> The alternator output is AC. You need to use AC ammeter to measure       >>>>> the AC current output from the alternator.       >>>>>       >>>> Correction, the alternator output is DC. The 6 internal power       >>>> diodes provide the necessary rectification. The 3 exciter diodes       >>>> are meant to excite the field coils and set the generation process       >>>> into gear.       >>>>       >>>       >>>       >>> Are you sure that's true for 1948 Pontiac?       >>>       >>> Maybe that alternator had been modified to use external rectifiers       >>> and regulator.       >>>       >> Then it wouldn't be a single wire alternator, would it? Think about       >> that for a moment. Alternators are, typically, 3 phase. That means 3       >> +ve power diodes, 3 -ve power diodes and 3 exciter diodes. If there       >> is only one output wire, then all *rectification* and control has to       >> be on-board.       >>       >       > If the alternator really has DC output, then the car's [DC] ammeter       > and external [DC] ammeter should register DC current.       >       > I believe somehow the alternator burnt the internal diodes, and the       > owner rewired it as single phase [AC] output and used external [bridge       > rectifier] after the car's dashboard [DC] ammeter. That means the       > dashboard [DC] ammeter has not been working properly ever since       > [because it was AC coming from the alternator]. A germanium [bridge       > rectifier] was used so some reverse current is flowing back into the       > alternator when the engine is not running but the key is on auxiliary.       > That's when and why the dashboard ammeter registers negative.       >                     I've some made minor corrections in square brackets [   ] above to       clarify my points.              I think I have the correct line of thinking.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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