From: bashley101@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/29/2013 05:32 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:   
      
   > Then, of course, you have the morons that just turn into the wrong lane   
   > altogether... or the guy RTORing onto a 3+ lane street while you have a   
   > left turn arrow that gets all flustered because he can't figure out that   
   > he needs to stay in the right lane and then change to the left once he's   
   > out of the intersection area, and can't just turn into any damn lane he   
   > wants...   
      
   Nasty local one here, and it's an east-facing freeway off-ramp.  The   
   bottom of the off-ramp meets a 4-lane + extra turn lanes street. The   
   off-ramp has two left-turn lanes, one of which is also a   
   straight-ahead-and-back-on-the-freeway lane.  As you make this left turn   
   off the freeway you are confronted with two left-turn lanes going right   
   back onto the freeway in the opposite direction and two lanes heading   
   north -- straight.   
      
   Novices in the offramp left-turn lanes don't have a clue that if they   
   stay in the same lanes on the north-going street that they will be   
   getting back on the freeway, so they suddenly have to cross one or more   
   lanes to do what they want to do.  Confusion ensues, especially since   
   the freeway is 10 lanes wide here plus a metro track in the median and   
   it's suddenly DARK when you have to make decisions.   
      
   And this isn't the dumbest freeway arrangement around here;  the one a   
   mile away (I-210 x San Gabriel/Sierra Madre) is even worse :-(   
      
      
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