XPost: alt.california, sac.politics, misc.immigration.usa   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: otterpower@xhotmail.com   
      
   On 1/28/2014 1:25 AM, richard wrote:   
   > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:50:06 -0500, Sancho Panza wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/27/2014 3:42 PM, richard wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:52:45 +0100, Andy Bernstein wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. (KABC) -- Nearly 700 pounds of cocaine was   
   >>>> found stashed in the trunk and backseat of a vehicle in San   
   >>>> Clemente Friday.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The unidentified suspect was stopped as part of a routine check   
   >>>> at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Station in the   
   >>>> northbound lanes of the 5 Freeway around 1:15 a.m.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Officials say the 54-year-old driver was wearing a suit and tie   
   >>>> when stopped. Agents said they became suspicious when the   
   >>>> suspect claimed he was a U.S. citizen.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> The caee should get tossed.   
   >>> There no federal laws requiring a person who was born in the USA to provide   
   >>> proof.   
   >>> Looking "illegal" never cut it in a court of law.   
   >>> I've seen dozens of BP agents who appear to be Mexican and speak fluent   
   >>> spanish.   
   >>> Not enough probable cause to detain certainly not enough to proceed with a   
   >>> search.   
   >>>   
   >>> There was a movie out years ago where they showed a Mexican guy and his kid   
   >>> out enjoyhing a drive. He gets stopped by a cop.   
   >>> "Ill need to see your visa and passport sir."   
   >>> "Really? Since when do US citizens need them? I was born and raosed in   
   >>> Colorado!".   
   >>   
   >> Movies don't mean squat. Read the article. The boxes were clearly   
   >> visible on the back seat.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Boxes on a seat is not probable cause.   
   > If the officer could see what he reasonably believed to be marijuana   
   > leaves, yeah then maybe he had probable cause.   
   > All of the major checkpoints I've been through all have dogs.   
   > If the dog made a positive hit, then that is probable cause.   
   >   
   > If the officer smelled marijuana, that could also be probable cause.   
   >   
   > You can not be legally detained simply for the way you look.   
   > That was the officer's excuse for the stop.   
      
   That is not stated in the article.   
      
      
      
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