XPost: alt.california, sac.politics, misc.immigration.usa   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: noreply@example.com   
      
   On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:50:06 -0500, Sancho Panza wrote:   
      
   > On 1/27/2014 3:42 PM, richard wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:52:45 +0100, Andy Bernstein wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. (KABC) -- Nearly 700 pounds of cocaine was   
   >>> found stashed in the trunk and backseat of a vehicle in San   
   >>> Clemente Friday.   
   >>>   
   >>> The unidentified suspect was stopped as part of a routine check   
   >>> at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Station in the   
   >>> northbound lanes of the 5 Freeway around 1:15 a.m.   
   >>>   
   >>> Officials say the 54-year-old driver was wearing a suit and tie   
   >>> when stopped. Agents said they became suspicious when the   
   >>> suspect claimed he was a U.S. citizen.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> The caee should get tossed.   
   >> There no federal laws requiring a person who was born in the USA to provide   
   >> proof.   
   >> Looking "illegal" never cut it in a court of law.   
   >> I've seen dozens of BP agents who appear to be Mexican and speak fluent   
   >> spanish.   
   >> Not enough probable cause to detain certainly not enough to proceed with a   
   >> search.   
   >>   
   >> There was a movie out years ago where they showed a Mexican guy and his kid   
   >> out enjoyhing a drive. He gets stopped by a cop.   
   >> "Ill need to see your visa and passport sir."   
   >> "Really? Since when do US citizens need them? I was born and raosed in   
   >> Colorado!".   
   >   
   > Movies don't mean squat. Read the article. The boxes were clearly   
   > visible on the back seat.   
   >   
      
      
   Boxes on a seat is not probable cause.   
   If the officer could see what he reasonably believed to be marijuana   
   leaves, yeah then maybe he had probable cause.   
   All of the major checkpoints I've been through all have dogs.   
   If the dog made a positive hit, then that is probable cause.   
      
   If the officer smelled marijuana, that could also be probable cause.   
      
   You can not be legally detained simply for the way you look.   
   That was the officer's excuse for the stop.   
      
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